Global warming!

*jaderabbit* · Jun 26, 2006, 08:12 AM

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Japan has ambitious plan to fight warming

By HANS GREIMEL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 25 minutes ago

TOKYO - Japan hopes to slash greenhouse gas emissions and fight global warming with a revolutionary plan to pump carbon dioxide into underground storage reservoirs instead of releasing it into the atmosphere, an official said Monday.
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The proposal aims to bury 200 million tons of carbon dioxide a year by 2020, cutting the country's emissions by one-sixth, said Masahiro Nishio, an official at the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. Introduced last month, the plan is still under study.

Underground storage of carbon dioxide underlines the new urgency felt by industrialized countries trying to rein in the effects of global warming. But capturing carbon dioxide from factory emissions and pressurizing it into liquid form, scientists can inject it into underground aquifers, gas fields or gaps between rock strata, safely keeping it out of the air.

Japan has no commercial underground carbon dioxide storage operations, Nishio said. But the proposed project would dwarf similar operations under way in Norway, Canada and Algeria, each of which pump about 1 million tons a year.

Tackling carbon dioxide is a top priority for Japan, the world's second-largest economy. The country expels 1.3 billion tons of carbon dioxide a year, making it one of the world's top offenders, despite being a key driver behind to the Kyoto Protocol — an international agreement to cut global output of carbon dioxide by 2012.

Underground storage could begin as early as 2010, but there are still many hurdles to overcome, Masahiro said.

Capturing carbon dioxide and injecting it underground is prohibitively expensive costing up to $52 a ton, Nishio said. Under the new initiative, the ministry aims to halve that cost by 2020 under.

"It's still very expensive, so we have much to study in development," Nishio said.

Safety concerns must also be addressed, to ensure that earthquakes or rock fissures do not allow a sudden release of millions of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. The U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change estimates that when stored properly, 99 percent of the carbon dioxide will likely remain stable for up to 1,000 years.

Long-term plans call for capturing emissions from steel mills, power plants and chemical factories. But the beginning stages will target natural gas fields, where large amounts of carbon dioxide are a byproduct of gas extraction, Nishio said.

Now that japan is actually doing something about it, what do you think the rest of the world should do?

How does global warming going to effect the rest of the world if we just set back and not do anything, is it really that serious?

*Dark.* · Jun 26, 2006, 08:32 AM

oh, that's a brilliant idea. Let's put inside the earth instead! Why do I get this feeling this idea will just blow up in our faces in later years? I mean it sounds like a good idea, but I'm kinda skeptical...I mean we'd have to bury it pretty deep for it to not just evaporite back into the air, wouldn't we? I don't know...

pigtaru · Jun 26, 2006, 08:33 AM

From my understanding a studies of geology, global warming is a a problem that is occurring in geologic time. This is a slow but obvious problem that the world faces. The problem is definitely serious, but only when speaking in geologic time. Geologic time is spoken in terms of thousands of years. In the long run, yes, this can be an issue, and many industries have taken up the torch to change the way we all live our lives. For example, cars today is progressively moving towards other forms of more environmentally friendly fuel resources, as well as smog regulations have become much tighter than a decade ago.

Global warming however is not as serious in the short-run, as these climatical changes take many hundred years to take affect. In short, you will not wake up tomorrow to a gigantic tidal wave or greeted with instant Ice Age, haha. ^_^.

Oldmagic · Jun 26, 2006, 08:38 AM

It will take time but maby we will succeed. who know, maby Murphys law might pop up anytime and blow up in our faces.

Drkduality · Jun 26, 2006, 09:54 AM

Well to be perfectly fair it's possible Earth's weather patterns could just be going through a seasonal shift (in a way), like reverse Ice age. Although i agree we should do all we can to reduce polution it is also possible that this global warming has nothing to do with us. (just to adress the other side of the arguement.......)

ordinateur · Jun 26, 2006, 11:16 AM

Hmmm, what should the rest of the world do... Good question lol. I think it's almost impossible to do something. Almost every country spends money for oil. If we started closing oil companies, I wonder what would happen....

Oldmagic · Jun 26, 2006, 11:18 AM

if we started closing oil companies there will be pandomonium......no that's not the word. simply put....chaos.

ordinateur · Jun 26, 2006, 11:22 AM

Yup, so finding a way to stop global warming is almost impossible, unless people contribute together to boycott things but then, on this side, we will get back to middle ages...

*Dark.* · Jun 26, 2006, 12:49 PM

this isn't about the fuel issue, it's about global warming, that's the thing. Sure, we're stopping global warming, (maybe) but that's not going to help our decreasing fossil fuels. I don't think the fuel problem will ever be resolved until oil companies pull their heads out of their asses and realize their way of living will cease to exist unless they invest some money into funding research of alternate fuel sources.

Even then, how do we really know we're the main cause of global warming? For all we know, this is a natural change. And mother nature always has her way, there's nothing we can do to stop that.

Hassun · Jun 26, 2006, 04:03 PM

I'm going to move this to the discussion forum...

*HolderOfTheDarkChalice* · Jun 26, 2006, 04:44 PM

if its mother natures way of doing things
you know thining the population out
does this mean our time is almost up?
i mean the global warming is hurting everyone
and not to meantion the fact that the ozone
layer is making an impact as well

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pigtaru Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Elk Grove, CA USA Posts: 397 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 171	Re: Global warming! From my understanding a studies of geology, global warming is a a problem that is occurring in geologic time. This is a slow but obvious problem that the world faces. The problem is definitely serious, but only when speaking in geologic time. Geologic time is spoken in terms of thousands of years. In the long run, yes, this can be an issue, and many industries have taken up the torch to change the way we all live our lives. For example, cars today is progressively moving towards other forms of more environmentally friendly fuel resources, as well as smog regulations have become much tighter than a decade ago. Global warming however is not as serious in the short-run, as these climatical changes take many hundred years to take affect. In short, you will not wake up tomorrow to a gigantic tidal wave or greeted with instant Ice Age, haha. ^_^. __________________ o~Piggy-san~o
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