Arrianna

The difference is that the "developed world" has filters and other ways of controlling their emissions already that industrial countries don't. China emits as much coal dust as all of the entire European block and Japan combined. If you take the developed countries and further curb their emissions it will make little to no difference and cost the world economy billions to trillions. The reason is that most of the pollution doesn't come from them. The emission footprint developed countries leave is for the most part over and has been for years. Industrial countries are holding that banner now.

So either take that money and pay for industrial countries to have the same emission standards we currently have or just live with the results. Anything else is nothing more then political posturing.

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I'm not so positive that the developed countries are effectively controlling their emmission or using 'filters'. I look at my own country and they are still debateing about the use of clean coal ( or 'filters'). Plus, looking at how much we rely on cars for transport still, I really still believe that we are still contributing in one way or another. I hate to be doom and gloom, but I think we are a long way of, of wiping our hands clean of this matter.

Sure, 'industrialised' as you said, (I'll call developing from now on) are doing it aswell, but as I already stated so are we. Not only are we directly doing it still, but we are helping the developing countries create that problems as well (we still buy those products don't we?)

And I do question wether the effect from developed nations from the past is really over, considering we are still feeling the effects today, in so many different ways. The longer we keep doing it, the longer the effects will be felt - and we are still going.

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I don' want any1 ta think I'm not for cleanin' up and protectin' our environment, but I can' help thinkin'; "Are we really the cause of the environmental ailes of the world?" I mean, think 'bout it; nature spews out more natural pollutants than we think. Volcanoes, for instance, have been around for billions of years and jus' one of them emits more CFC and greenhouse gases than the U.S. can produce alone. I don' feel that mankind is the cause of these environmental ailes, although I do feel that we r contributin' ta them. I think that it's very arrogant ta think that we r the cause of all of these ailes and that we r the answer ta them all as well. I'm not sayin' that we shouldn' do our part, jus' sayin' that some things happen in nature and that we aren' the cause of them.

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Spooked_Ninja

To be quite honest, I'd say from a scientific point of view, that global warming is a natural occurance. For one, if Florida and Parts of Georgia could be underwater without the help of man, don't you think it can do it again without the help of man .

And Also it was proven that the climate was a lot different back then.
Thats how people were able to adapt to the elements outdoors *cause it was warm back in the days*

But even still, i think people need to find better energy, cause i have to breath in that air, and walk down that street, i I don't wanna see plastic littler in the dirt

LichGRIFFIN

i believe in Global Warming and the catastrophe is going to fall if we didn't return things to a course to avoid a human disaster ... everyone in the world is playing a role in creating it ... but the difference is on how much are we destroying ourselves by our own hands ....

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Lupas

well, i'd have to agree w/ spooked ninja it's a natural course 4 the eath to take. we're only a in the bucket....
on the other hand.. (see below)

we are a major problem 4 the earth, 6.5 billion of us, and not one of us can take responsiblity 4 the carbon we exhale. we blame machines, kinda childish of us gotta go i'll edit this latter thnx

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Titanofdeath

America needs to look into the and do somethings about this. cause this is more inportent then the war in iraq cause global warming is going to be in the furture and are kids are going to have to do something if we dont and by then it will be to late before anyone can do anything.

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divine_punishment

Not just America, you know. This world belongs to . . . well, the world. I am sure America can do a great deal to help patch it up, but the responsibility falls on everyone: every country, every state, every province, every city, every county . . . This is our world; let us take care of it.

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LichGRIFFIN

It is a natural course indeed .... and it is the problem of population indeed too ... but the problem of the responsibility is another thing ... no one ever can take that even if he/they wanted to because even if he/they agreed to some sort of treatment for the trouble ,will all the world be abide with that? ... of course not for a lot reasons and you know that .... kinda childish but true

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Joe Mage

What I'm sayin' is that we're contributin' ta this problem, not causin' it. Back when I was in collage, my physical science class; and later my biology class; had this very discussion that we're havin' now. Both of my teachers brought forth studies that were done on both the environment and the Hole in the O-zone layer. These studies showed that nature produces more natural pollutants than most of the countries of the world and that the ratio of pollutant production tips heavilly in nature's favor. Back ta my volcano example, they have been known ta spew out 10 times the amount of carbon emittions than most of the developed countries.

Are u familar wit the theory of "Revolutions and Submergences?"

The theory states that a "Revolution" period is a stage in which the Land rises, the Oceans fall, Polar Ice caps form, and the temperature and environment become seasonal. This is the period that we're currently in.
And that a "Submergence" period is a stage in which the Temperature increases, the Polar Ice caps melt, the Oceans rise; movin' ta a higher elevation, the Land falls, Islands form from mountain ranges, and then the Temperature becomes more uniformal. Seems kind of what we're experiencin' now.

There is evidence ta support this theory and I believe that in order ta begin a "Submergence" period, carbon emittions haveta b at their peak. I believe that we're headin' for a "Submergence" period, if so, then this is a natural occurence and there's little that we can do 'bout it. We, as a species, r contributin' ta this phenomenon, makin' it occur much faster, but not causin' it. I'm all for protectin' and preservin' our environment, but 'cause it's our responsibility ta do so, not 'cause some career politician; whose jus' tryin' ta get his name back inta the media; says that we're the cause of an occurence that very well could b natural. Besides, his documentary has already had holes blown inta it anyways, so it can hardly b taken as fully "credible."

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