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Originally Posted by Manga artist
FYI Three divine persona/person ONe God. and he knew that Job will not foresake him or loose fatih in him. If he was foolish in believing in this man then yes i guess so he was foolish to believe in the faith of a man. Trials are given to improve us and make us stronger and why should we believe in God only when good things happen it should be both. God was guilty of believing the best of his creation.
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Originally Posted by loknkey
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God was guilty of believing the best of his creation.
I think what she is saying is that God is guilty of having high expectations for us. I would have to disagree on that how ever as he knew already that his creatures (Pretty much everything in this universe) was not going to be pure.
And to answer loknkey... That is one of the views of Christianity I dont agree with. I dont believe you will go to hell if you dont have faith, but rather be reborn once again to find god and faith in your next life as long as you are a good person of cores, other wise then you are going to hell.
I totally agree with this. G-d didn't make us to be pure and perfect that's what the Angels are for. He made us to be Im-perfect so we could learn and adapt and evovle into a greater being. If everything was perfect we wouldn't have struggles or a need for Faith or even a need to believe in G-d. Not unless we knew him on a personal level like the Angels do. Life would be boring if we had that:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scourge
G-d didn't just make us and then walk away He wants us to better ourselves and make something of the world he gave us. I'm positive he expected War and such to happen. But that doesn't make him responsible for it. If you remember, In the time of Noah the world got sooo corrupt (even worse then today!) that he had to destroy it and start over. that is the basic laymen story of Noah and the Flood. People were sleeping with everyone Mothers, brothers next doors Mrs. animals everything. People were stealing, lying cheating one hundred times worse then today. So the most "pure" of an impure time, Noah, was taken my G-d and told to make the ark and get the animals on it so when G-d would flood the earth Noah could re-populate.
(off topic here but...) I also Believe that at this time Unicorns and Dragons and all that fairy tale good stuff was around (couldn't have come from no where?) But were so courrpt and impure (ironic i know) that G-d Deemed them not worthy of being saved. It is said that The water was boiling hot and the last of the Giants tried to save himself by Grabbing hold and standing on the ark but he eventually fell because it was not for him to be saved.
Centures were an offshoot of the corrupt men having there way with Horses. As for unicorns i have no idea. (end of rant)
God is kind and will not allow any of his child to be taken by the devil it only happen that many people follow the devil's path without knowing it that's why there are possession and insanity happen. Even you are a healthy and blessed person it doesn't mean that god loves you. God love those who suffer and die because of him (even people like that too) so when you are in pain because of god's name rejoice because when the white throne judgement come you will not be judge anymore and you will live with god with golden houses and golden roads and you will not feel any hunger, cold, pain sorrow and anything that is awful be kind and endure the things that will come and an eternal life will come to you and for those who make you suffer, they will suffer 10X than what you feel imagine them screaming because of the pain that they are feeling and they will not die.. it means, they will feel it forever....
That's horrible. Why would you want this? And why would you worship a God who would do this?Quote:
they will suffer 10X than what you feel imagine them screaming because of the pain that they are feeling and they will not die.. it means, they will feel it forever....
I think what he is saying that pain and suffering will be 10 foald on those who have hurt you because they will be in hell. So its not God punishing them, but rather because these people are in hell burning.
Umm.... To Christians, God and Christ are one and the same! Do your homework, kid. Have you completely read the Book of Job?? God wanted to prove to the devil that humans aren't as weak as the devil thought they were. It is a story with a moral. Humans are meant to struggle, faith helps most humans forget about that struggle and gives them a higher purpose in life. (I did a LOT of bible study as a kid) God lets the devil live because without evil, there is no good. People are born in to sin, that's something that is out of God's control, beleive it or not. It's like Yin and Yang, positive and negative. Opposites attract, opposing forces create energy and energy sustains life--including the lives of gods and demons!Quote:
Originally Posted by Manga artist
Without the devil, we'd have one helluva angry god. Like the Old Testament god that used to just destroy towns he was displeased with. Which brings me to my next point. Soddom and Gemorrah. Lot's wife turned in to a pillar of salt because she decided to take one spit second to look at God's wrath--after God sent angels to Lot and his family who specifically stated, run far away from this town and do not look back!! So she didn't listen to god and looked back; now she's pretty salty. LOL. You think Lot wanted to look back after that? Hell no!! You think he wanted to be a pillar of spice? NO!!! Do you think he blames God?? NO!! People need deity as a crutch to get through life's struggles. Those who blame god for everything are either just bad at life or Satan worshipers.
You can't condemn God for trying to prove the devil wrong (which he did, LOL) and you can't say that Jesus was any better... THEY'RE THE SAME F***ING GUY!!! If God wants to make a bet, let him. He made the same bet with the devil when Jesus roamed around with Satan trying to tempt him in Jesus' earlier days (pre-crucifixion). God likes to gamble. After all, he made man in his own image and there are TONS of casinos around here. :D: