FallenSpiral

Okay, so yesterday I was watching the news and they were talking about homosexuals will end up destroying our country if we start to completely approve of everything they do.

The fact that they are homosexuals is OK! in my eyes. (That for the most part being because I feel that I am a homosexual and act on it.)

There are things though that homosexuals do that I don't approve of.

Homosexuals (Gays) do more drugs than any stereotype that I have experienced thus far in my life.

I just want to know if everyone agrees with what I heard on the news yesterday.

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Hassun

And who was saying this exactly?

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FallenSpiral

Ahh, I can't remember but it was some woman that was saying that all previous countries in history that had embraced homosexuality had come to a demise.

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Mini Dev

Ok this is utterly random, it's just ammusing to think that gays are overrueling people classed as "Normal" all i can say about this matter is really...GO ON YOU HOMESEXUAL GAYS! RUIN THE GOVERMOUNT FOR US!!!

Arrianna

There is historical premise for that yes. You have to be specific though, it is homosexuality not bisexuality that is one of the precursors to corruption and destruction of a society. The reason is very simple, the best indicator of the strength of a society is the strength of their family unit. The acceptance of a society of homosexuality and the exclusion of traditional family units is a visible sign of other weaknesses in society as a whole.

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tsurara

You've made a vague statement about a person you can't name on a channel you can't name about a topic you can't name...

How the heck am I supposed to comment?

I'm sure yesterday someone somewhere said that Hitler was right and the Holocaust never happened, that peanutbutter is disgusting and that chocolate ice cream is a superior flavor to vanilla.

While all three statements ruffle by feathers: I'm not inclined to feel that I need to comment on them unless they're made by someone the world looks up to and doesn't already think is an idiot (ie. Fred Phelps or his twitchy wife... which is probably where this silliness is coming from).

And actually... all societies that have embraced/accepted/exaulted homosexuality haven't been destroyed. Japan and Greece both seem to have done just fine. I can name plenty of heterosexual societies that didn't make the cut either :/

Seeing as blatant homophobia is primarily a Biblical construct and the people following the Abrahamic God have more or less taken over the entire world and said "convert or eat lead!" I don't find it surprising that homosexuality isn't as "popular" as it once was :P The prospect of being hanged for being caught in bed with the same gender is a bit of a deal-breaker, isn't it?

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Arrianna

Japan and Greece didn't embrace homosexuality they embraced bisexuality. You can have as many lovers as you want as long as you also get married, have children, and provide for them.

That is why I said you have to be specific. Sorry, the unknown person that FallenSpiral heard didn't say anything new you can find that little fact from almost any historian. Mind you another sign of imminent collapse is the excessive use of public competition/entertainment to keep the common citizens appeased while elitists take over the government. (Can you say Reality TV?) Then there is the excess in drinking (or consuming other addictive substances) as a social activity to the point that the industry of making wine triples in size....

I would say based on history quite a few current countries are in trouble.

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tsurara

Homosexuality does not have to be exclusive to be homosexuality. Encounters between members of the same gender are still homosexual encounters and reguardless of whether a family unit exists beyond the homosexual lifestyle embraced: I'm fairly certain that doesn't make the act of sticking your willy in another boy's butt any less "Gay" (or pleasing to the cranky Abrahamic God who says that's sinful and would then turn around and smite your society on account of it...which is the argument usually being made when someone decides to dredge this topic up on television or in church).

Obviously exclusive homosexuality isn't going to create a society at all. Exclusive homosexuals don't reproduce. That makes it a little tough to "carry on the legacy"

In Japan, relationships between men were romantic, desireable and exciting while women were for making heirs to then inherit your land, business or to place on thrones to pretend to be kings while you manipulated them from behind the scenes and screwed pretty female-role actors and geisha. Incidentally, all this went on in a time in which suicide, drinking, prostitution, dirty pictures, drinking and killing Christians was rather en vogue.

Japan's still around... and unless you count the Atomic bomb "divine", they remain largely un-smited (and still incredibly dependant on dirty pictures, suicide and alcohol)

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Arrianna

You know you can throw a fit about the Abrahamic Laws against homosexuality all you want it doesn't change the fact that if you have sex with both genders it is Bi-sexuality. Nor does it change the facts about what has happened to societies that supported exclusive homosexual relationships over the family unit. That is what FallenSpiral said he had heard wasn't it? Whether someone objects to it on religious grounds or not the facts still stand. It is not new and we can look at history to see what has happened to other societies that have done the same thing. Since I have two historians for brothers I get to learn about this stuff for free. Lucky me.

So remember the three signs I mentioned:

1. Exclusive homosexual relationships.
2. Blood sport to appease the common people.
3. Societal indulgence in addictive substances.

... and try not to get upset when someone tells you something new without looking into it first.

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Hassun

Exclusive homosexual societies? Have those ever existed?
I mean they can't even reproduce.

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Arrianna

You know exactly what I mean since I already said it in detail.
... and yes they have existed. It doesn't require all of the society to be homosexual only for society to accept exclusive homosexual relationships as desirable and consider traditional family units to be unimportant.

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