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    Re: Government speaking about Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by tsurara View Post
    Homosexuality does not have to be exclusive to be homosexuality. Encounters between members of the same gender are still homosexual encounters and reguardless of whether a family unit exists beyond the homosexual lifestyle embraced: I'm fairly certain that doesn't make the act of sticking your willy in another boy's butt any less "Gay" (or pleasing to the cranky Abrahamic God who says that's sinful and would then turn around and smite your society on account of it...which is the argument usually being made when someone decides to dredge this topic up on television or in church).
    You know you can throw a fit about the Abrahamic Laws against homosexuality all you want it doesn't change the fact that if you have sex with both genders it is Bi-sexuality. Nor does it change the facts about what has happened to societies that supported exclusive homosexual relationships over the family unit. That is what FallenSpiral said he had heard wasn't it?
    some woman that was saying that all previous countries in history that had embraced homosexuality had come to a demise.
    Whether someone objects to it on religious grounds or not the facts still stand. It is not new and we can look at history to see what has happened to other societies that have done the same thing. Since I have two historians for brothers I get to learn about this stuff for free. Lucky me.

    So remember the three signs I mentioned:
    1. Exclusive homosexual relationships.
    2. Blood sport to appease the common people.
    3. Societal indulgence in addictive substances.

    ... and try not to get upset when someone tells you something new without looking into it first.

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    Re: Government speaking about Gays

    Exclusive homosexual societies? Have those ever existed?
    I mean they can't even reproduce.

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    Re: Government speaking about Gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassun View Post
    Exclusive homosexual societies? Have those ever existed?
    I mean they can't even reproduce.
    You know exactly what I mean since I already said it in detail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    The reason is very simple, the best indicator of the strength of a society is the strength of their family unit. The acceptance of a society of homosexuality and the exclusion of traditional family units is a visible sign of other weaknesses in society as a whole.
    ... and yes they have existed. It doesn't require all of the society to be homosexual only for society to accept exclusive homosexual relationships as desirable and consider traditional family units to be unimportant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    ... and yes they have existed.
    For how long?

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    For how long?
    Thanks I needed the laugh. I am afraid I can't give you a time frame though. the obvious answer would be one generation, but I am afraid it isn't that simple.

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    Re: Government speaking about Gays

    Uh... yeah... show me evidence of these exclusively homosexual societies... because apparently the gheys have not been told.

    In order for a "gay civilization" to arise, you'd need the gays to reproduce long enough to develop culture, government, and defense systems. In reproducing at all, you've deemed them "bisexual" and therefore exempt from the example. Did they reproduce via budding? O_o; Or did six or seven queers just run off into the desert together, build a few hut, compose some poetry, poke the heteros with sticks and that's our "society"?

    And the term "homosexual" (literally "same" "sex"), depending on its use, implies no exclusivity of homosexual behaviors. You're using it in it's modern tv/pulpit sense (ie. the sexual orientation "homosexual").

    homosexuality - Definitions from Dictionary.com

    I have used it correctly. My Japanese history book includes 58 references to "homosexuality" in it's appendix...

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    It is interesting though, in these modern times an exclusively lesbian society could theoretically exist right? Using in vitro fertilisation.
    I wonder if it would work out... Many feminist organisations collapsed pretty fast. The power of nature and instincts is probably hard to repress.

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    Re: Government speaking about Gays

    Searched for awhile for defunct gay civilizations... this is about all I could find:

    Very Bad News - The New York Review of Books

    Oddly enough, none of the defunct civilizations mentioned were homosexual in nature...

    "The dangers of catastrophe are growing. One reason is the rise of apocalyptic terrorism. Another... is the breakneck pace of scientific and technological advance.... The cost of dangerous technologies, such as those of nuclear and biological warfare, and the level of skill required to employ them are falling, which is placing more of the technologies within reach of small nations, terrorist gangs, and even individual psychopaths. Yet, great as it is, the challenge of managing the catastrophic risks is receiving less attention than is lavished on social issues of far less intrinsic significance, such as race relations, whether homosexual marriage should be permitted, the size of the federal deficit, drug addiction, and child pornography. Not that these are trivial issues. But they do not involve events of potential extinction or the modestly less cataclysmic variants of those events."

    hmm...

    that would seem to imply that our danger of killing ourselves off due to social/moral issues is pretty minimal in comparison to us simply breeding/eating/consuming/bombing ourselves out of house and home.

    Seeing as most of the defunt civilizations in that article died off from deforestation, land use, starvation, natural disaster and over-population: maybe exclusive homosexuals are doing us a favor in not reproducing?

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