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    Quote Originally Posted by Peach_follows View Post
    Um. I have to dissagree with this. But maybe only partially, because maybe you're referring to CRAP graffiti, in which case... you'd be right. But for the most part, Graffiti is a tremendously valued form of art. Even in the most esteemed of atisitc communities.
    Its valued in the sense that it is part of an urban CULTURE! And there is plenty of good graffiti! People who dont understand what goes into graffiti may just shrug it off. But If you know what its all I about you learn to QUICKLY respect it. And I know plenty of people who are connoisseurs of GOOD graffiti.

    I totally agree with Peach on this one. You can't make a statement on a subject that you only have little knowledge of. Graffiti is a HIGHLY respected form of art. Hell, Sega gave graffiti mad props with Jet Grind Radio and Jet Set Radio Future (JSRF). It's a part of my culture! It's what I was raised around. Anime and graffiti.

    You can't have really have a valid opinion on graffiti, when all you see is a few crappy bombs/tags. There are a massive amount of "toys" that will come around and think that they are graffiti artists, and will just paint their crap where ever they feel like it; like houses, for example. I typically don't deface too many buildings--unless they're abandoned--I usually hit up trains, bridges and highways. Places where I know I'll get noticed.

    But you can't compare some toy to an actual graffiti artist. I wish some of the guys from ISK--a local tag crew--or DHS (My crew) would read this forum thread. They'd be able to provide a much better insight on this topic. Even Peyton and Roger from Juxta could give you guys a much better view on this art form.


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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    Wow...
    i stand by some graffiti but this is just ridiculous. i see graffitit as a way to express yourself. it's art if you ask me. a wall is the urban artists canvas...yea i am way into taking pixs of tagging from different cities and the things i see are beautiful walls that were poured out by someone's soul...deeep huh?

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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    Well both..it depends actually... ^^ but i consider it as errmm vandalisme if it is on buildings which is not theirs.. if it's inside their own house then it's art...

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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki69 View Post
    Wow...
    i stand by some graffiti but this is just ridiculous. i see graffitit as a way to express yourself. it's art if you ask me. a wall is the urban artists canvas...yea i am way into taking pixs of tagging from different cities and the things i see are beautiful walls that were poured out by someone's soul...deeep huh?
    Ye but there are other ways to express yourself, almost evrywhere are thing of people how want to express themselfs.
    There are lots of thing that are seen as a way to express oneself it can be done true billbaords or architectur, cars, gardens, websites etc.
    A good exemple of expresions on AO are avatars and signatures, a signature is a expresion of the one how made it.
    When i look at some of yours signatures i can clearly see that there wend a lot af time in making them and the results are amezing.

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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    Quote Originally Posted by _gwenibe_
    And I agree. Cool let's go paint all over some ones property. It is vandelism not art.

    But I do agree that some graffiti is good. It sad to see such talent going to waste on some ones wall who didn't want it there in the first place. Think of the money they could make if they'd only apply themselves to something other than defacing people property. Plus, think of all the creative industries they could get themselves into. I'm not sure that all graffiti is gang related though.
    Yeah, it is sad to think that kids can be doing so much more with their lives. They could be out learning how to play a violin, or working on their soccer skills. Don't get me wrong, there are soo many kids out there with talent.. but it's a shame that they show it through vandalism.

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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    Well it depends on the taggers really. Some tags are made by gangs and it's just vandalism not art. There was this great big tag behind this Korean Grocery store. It looked more like a mural to most people but you could still tell that it was someone's tag. It was so good looking that the owners kept it there and never removed it. But when the store had new owners they painted over it. My father and I were upset that they removed such a beautiful picture but o' well.

    One of the things I like to do is watch a train go by and look at all the different tags. It's actually pretty neat.

    Heres a great tag by someone. Don't know which city it's in though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    One of the things I like to do is watch a train go by and look at all the different tags. It's actually pretty neat.
    OMG! That's like, one of my favorite past times! ^_^

    I love driving/walking/riding the bus and, as soon as the railroad crossing lights start blinknig, I sit and watch. The train could be 5 miles long, as long as there's some beautiful pieces on the train, it's always entertaining.

    I agree with everybody who says that there are other options. You COULD perfect one of your other talents, or learn something new. But why would you give up such a beautiful art-form? Illegal or not, it's not just art, it's culture. And without a variety of cultures and art styles, life would be pretty bland; don't you think?


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    Re: Graffiti: Artwork or Gang propaganda??

    I don't agree with the council trying to control the sells of spray paint because that's just too controlling. Now spray paint but if they make it more difficult to purchase then people will most likely turn to other things. As for graffiti being artwork I agree only to a certain extent. If it actually is some sort of absract art then go for it but not on other people property. Someone has to pay for it to be painted over (unless it's really nice). If the city has to do it then taxes increase. Taxes are high enough why make it worse by painting graffiti on public property or anyone elses property. Find some other way to do it that won't bother anyone.

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