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Old Apr 02, 2006, 10:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Hitler intellect.

Adolf Hitler - Still a well known figure up until this day.
Would anyone really consider him an intelligent man?
In my opinion, he was just at the right place in the right time.
Someone had to be blamed and he was there to steer everyone in that direction.
So I guess in a sense he is cunning and manipulative.....but I would hardly use the word 'intelligent'.
Wats ur opinion on this topic?
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Old Apr 02, 2006, 10:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

Psychotic is the word not 'intelligent' he was really freaking crazy. Personally, Psychotic people are very intellectual but the distorted view they have of reality negates all value they could posses in society and Hitler is the result of this going unchecked and people like him roaming free. Purely speculation but I feel it is pretty close.
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Old Apr 02, 2006, 10:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

I think he wasn't. I think he was mad, and crazy man. He was just there at the right time. Plan and Simple.
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Old Apr 02, 2006, 10:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

Amazing...I was expecting...well practiculy everyone to label Hitler as one of the most intelligent historical figures.
Hitler was practiculy placed under intelligent in the dictionary..... well from the opinions of most ppl I know, at least.
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Old Apr 03, 2006, 01:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

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Psychotic is the word not 'intelligent' he was really freaking crazy. Personally, Psychotic people are very intellectual but the distorted view they have of reality negates all value they could posses in society and Hitler is the result of this going unchecked and people like him roaming free. Purely speculation but I feel it is pretty close.
yep...he's nuts have no idea wat's wrong with him...
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Old Apr 03, 2006, 01:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

Using Hitler and intelligent is an oxymoron, and a bad use of the thesaurus. Hitler saw an opportunity to instigate people's thoughts by fear and belief of superiority. All he was, was a tool.
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

Hitler was a very intelligent man, it's a simple fact. He used actual psychological methods over the course of a few years, to not only gain control of a nation, but gain the following and trust of the people. Hundreds of thousands attended his speeches at a time, these people were devoted to him. His accomplishments before the war even started were remarkable, and his accomplishments during the war were equally astounding. Yes it is true that he lost, but very few could have gone as far as he, and lasted as long as he. While it is well known that he held rather questionable policies and beliefs, those are in no way related to his intelligence. A lot of people say "How can you call him intelligent?! He was a horrible man!"

Bullshit, I don't care if he killed six billion Jews, it still has no bearing on his intelligence or his diplomatic and war accomplishments. It takes a man with balls and a sharp mind to have pushed for and achieved such a deal as the Munich Agreement.



And I don't get the "Hitler was crazy" routine. He showed no signs whatsoever of being psychotic, or having any other psychological conditions. Anti-semitism does not mean psychosis. I am a student of psychology and I enjoy the subject greatly. What I do not enjoy are people who are quick to claim someone is "crazy" or "I have ADD!!!"

Cut the crap and save it for the poor few who really are victims of psychological problems. A psychotic man would not have the demeanor to sucessfully run a country for more than 3 minutes.

I'm not in the least bit afraid to say that I admire Hitler. I don't admire every thing about him, just like I admire Morgan Freeman, I don't admire everything about him, only some things. Same with Uncle Adolf. He was a sharp man, a good leader, and had a charisma most would kill for. He had some radical ideas, but again it was a radical time (Germany was hit harder by the depression than any other nation, even worse than the UK. The US actually was one of the better off nations)

So in short, Hitler was quite the guy. He was pretty sharp, sure he wasn't Einstein, but he was sure not your average Joe either.
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

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Hitler was a very intelligent man, it's a simple fact. He used actual psychological methods over the course of a few years, to not only gain control of a nation, but gain the following and trust of the people. Hundreds of thousands attended his speeches at a time, these people were devoted to him. His accomplishments before the war even started were remarkable, and his accomplishments during the war were equally astounding. Yes it is true that he lost, but very few could have gone as far as he, and lasted as long as he. While it is well known that he held rather questionable policies and beliefs, those are in no way related to his intelligence. A lot of people say "How can you call him intelligent?! He was a horrible man!"

Bullshit, I don't care if he killed six billion Jews, it still has no bearing on his intelligence or his diplomatic and war accomplishments. It takes a man with balls and a sharp mind to have pushed for and achieved such a deal as the Munich Agreement.



And I don't get the "Hitler was crazy" routine. He showed no signs whatsoever of being psychotic, or having any other psychological conditions. Anti-semitism does not mean psychosis. I am a student of psychology and I enjoy the subject greatly. What I do not enjoy are people who are quick to claim someone is "crazy" or "I have ADD!!!"

Cut the crap and save it for the poor few who really are victims of psychological problems. A psychotic man would not have the demeanor to sucessfully run a country for more than 3 minutes.

I'm not in the least bit afraid to say that I admire Hitler. I don't admire every thing about him, just like I admire Morgan Freeman, I don't admire everything about him, only some things. Same with Uncle Adolf. He was a sharp man, a good leader, and had a charisma most would kill for. He had some radical ideas, but again it was a radical time (Germany was hit harder by the depression than any other nation, even worse than the UK. The US actually was one of the better off nations)

So in short, Hitler was quite the guy. He was pretty sharp, sure he wasn't Einstein, but he was sure not your average Joe either.
wow your smart, but he did kill himself in the end. So what if he achieved a lot. He didn't stick thought till the end. He was weak, and yes he was smart. Maybe not using his smartest in the right way, but I'll stick to what I said. The guy lost it, in the end of his days. He was human just like me and you. Nor less, nor greater. He had Charisma, and was a artist in his own way. He didn't just see the big picture, but all the little things, in it too. Yes he was no average joe, nor a Einstein, but he just proved how easy it is to make a person believe in what you believe in.

Anyway at the time people were looking for a leader, or someone to look up too. Yes I do hate the fact that he hates people for what they are, and that people still think what he said is true still today, but for a guy so smart he surly had no heart. Okay maybe he wasn't crazy, but he had problems, and I'll leave it like that. What was the problem? What made this hate come so strong that he wanted them all died. As far as I know. That consider a anger problem. Not delt with as a kid, and I believe they have treatment for that now these days. Maybe even a chemical inblance in his head. IDk. But he was bright.
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

I don't think he was extremely intelligent but he WAS smart andabove all, he had an amazing charisma.
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

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Originally Posted by frr_vegeta
Hitler was a very intelligent man, it's a simple fact. He used actual psychological methods over the course of a few years, to not only gain control of a nation, but gain the following and trust of the people. Hundreds of thousands attended his speeches at a time, these people were devoted to him. His accomplishments before the war even started were remarkable, and his accomplishments during the war were equally astounding. Yes it is true that he lost, but very few could have gone as far as he, and lasted as long as he. While it is well known that he held rather questionable policies and beliefs, those are in no way related to his intelligence. A lot of people say "How can you call him intelligent?! He was a horrible man!"

Bullshit, I don't care if he killed six billion Jews, it still has no bearing on his intelligence or his diplomatic and war accomplishments. It takes a man with balls and a sharp mind to have pushed for and achieved such a deal as the Munich Agreement.



And I don't get the "Hitler was crazy" routine. He showed no signs whatsoever of being psychotic, or having any other psychological conditions. Anti-semitism does not mean psychosis. I am a student of psychology and I enjoy the subject greatly. What I do not enjoy are people who are quick to claim someone is "crazy" or "I have ADD!!!"

Cut the crap and save it for the poor few who really are victims of psychological problems. A psychotic man would not have the demeanor to sucessfully run a country for more than 3 minutes.

I'm not in the least bit afraid to say that I admire Hitler. I don't admire every thing about him, just like I admire Morgan Freeman, I don't admire everything about him, only some things. Same with Uncle Adolf. He was a sharp man, a good leader, and had a charisma most would kill for. He had some radical ideas, but again it was a radical time (Germany was hit harder by the depression than any other nation, even worse than the UK. The US actually was one of the better off nations)

So in short, Hitler was quite the guy. He was pretty sharp, sure he wasn't Einstein, but he was sure not your average Joe either.
It is true that Hitler accomplished alot and evidently more so than the 'average joe'.
HOwever, I wouldn't base his accomplishments on his intellect. He was manipulative. Although he was smart enough to realise how and when to propose his theorys, it was definitely all based on his power of manipulation.
Nonetheless, his accomplishments were admirable minus the countless homicides.
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Re: The Hitler intellect.

for all i know, he was a damn good public speaker, a mass hypnotiser, manipulative and a control freak. i would say he was an intellegent man, in tactics which gained him his position and power, but i dont admire him. if intellegence meaning causing a holocaust, i rather be a retard.

and he was definitely not crazy, continually coming up with new ways to efficiently massacred the Jews, and scientific experiementation on what he called the sinful creatures, he did manage to make a few steps forward in the science word. anyone care for some pictures? (dont you just love documentries )
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