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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    tactically yes and battle worthy yes but he was a facsist and a general f*ck*r a meglomaniac and a psycotic bastard
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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by frr_vegeta
    A psychotic man would not have the demeanor to sucessfully run a country for more than 3 minutes.
    Then I wonder what you would have to say for the Roman emperor Caligula.

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. K
    Come on... The Guy how killed all those Jews. The very Racist if you ask me.
    according to something I read he wasnt racist.... needed someone to blame on all of Germanys problems, and something to distrct the ppl..... the jews were the most indentifiable group.... so u know the rest of the story...
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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. K
    Come on... The Guy how killed all those Jews. The very Racist if you ask me.
    To quote from my history book about who the Nazis disliked besides Jewish people:
    They included Roma (gypsies), Poles, Russians, homosexuals (), the insane, the disabled, and the incurably ill. But the Nazis focused especially on Jews.
    Quote Originally Posted by cerebrum
    Adolf Hitler - Still a well known figure up until this day.
    Would anyone really consider him an intelligent man?
    In my opinion, he was just at the right place in the right time.
    Someone had to be blamed and he was there to steer everyone in that direction.
    So I guess in a sense he is cunning and manipulative.....but I would hardly use the word 'intelligent'.
    Wats ur opinion on this topic?
    Anyways, now on to what I think of Hitler I do have to admit that he was above average in intelligence, however, I consider him more clever than smart. The things that helped him on the road to his limited success were mainly from doing SOME right things at the right time, gaining the people's trust since the people of Germany wanted a fast solution to problems that were occuring in their economy, and from the effects of the Treaty of Versailes, he took many chances, he had charima and SOME great leadership skills, and he found scapegoats.

    The moments he found to lanuch his plans for his country had excellent timing. When Germany was at rock bottom in economy from suffering through World War I, they needed someone who would help them get out of their suffering. Although after Hitler was released from prison, people did not not pay much attention to him, until loans from America stopped. After this event, the German economy collapsed. The people of Germany, confused and frightened, turned to Hitler for security and leadership, since he was already known for being the leader of the Nazi party. With his plans and leadership, he did bring Germany back up to a stable level in ecomnomy.With his charisma and great talent of presenting speeches, Hitler soon rose to higher power. Through the believe of the ability to control him and use him for their own purposes, conservative leaders advised President Paul von Hindenburg to name Hitler chancellor of Germany. Of course, we know how their plan turned out Because of their plan, Hitler got to power legally. Soon, Hitler would become dictator of his country. He would turn his county into a toltalitarian state. He would use his Schutzstaffel, or protection squad, so that no enemy of his would live. He used propaganda on the press, radio, literature, paintings, and films so that he could control every aspect of German life, and he would not allow churches to talk negative of the Nazi government, he would not allow books that did not involve beliefs of the Nazis, and the schoolchildren, for boys, had to join the Hitler Youth, and the girls would have to join the League of German Girls. However, his plans and war weren't too great. His major mstake was to attack Russia. He did sign an nonaggression pact with Mussolini, but he later broke it. Not only should he have known of what they were capable of, such as their scorched-earth policy, but he should have quit when he had the opportunity at the battle at Leningrad. His attempt to take Moscow did nothing but cost 500,000 lives of German soldiers.

    Hitler took many chances during his reign of power. One of them was when he defied the Treaty of Versailes. The League of Nations tried to convince Hitler from this action when they only issued a a mild condemnation. Because of their failure to stop him, Hitler took even more risks. The treaty would not allow him to enter a 30-mile-wide area of both sides of the Rhine River, which was a very important indusrial area. When Germany occupied the Rhineland once again, there were many favorable outcomes for Hitler. First, his power and level of respect would increase, France and Belgium were now open for attack from the Germans, and the weak attemps from Great Britain and France to stop Hitler only made him want to speed the time of Germany's expansion furthermore. Also, although Hitler would later sign an appeasement with Great Britain and France, he would take Czechoslovakia and he would demand the return of the former German port of Danzig from Poland. He would soon seek the invasion of Poland with the German's newest military strategy known as blitzberg, also known as the "lightening war." Because of the appeasement, Great Britain and France would still not risk war after all he had done. They would soon realize that war was inevitable, so finally on September 3, 1939, they would declare war on Germany.

    As listed above, he choose a few types of people to blame for the problem of lebensraum, also known as living space. He believed these people were inferior to his country. His people would soon agree with him. As quoted, these scapegoats were:
    They included Roma (gypsies), Poles, Russians, homosexuals (), the insane, the disabled, and the incurably ill. But the Nazis focused especially on Jews.
    Now I wouldn't say he was crazy, but he was too vicious and ruthless, since he killed innocent people and was too power corrupt, some of his plans during war were irrational, such as his attempted invasion on Moscow and his retreat at the Battle of Britain, and he was too proud, such as the time him and his wife commited suicide so he would not have to face the dishonor of defeat.

    So to sum up everything that I have said, Hitler was smart, but I consider him more of being clever I don't like his hair and mustache

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Hitler had very horrid health issues including Parkinson's

    Unknown to most people today, and especially to many Germans at the time, Hitler suffered from several medical ailments. In 1934, the young SS officer and surgeon Dr. Karl Brandt, assisted by Professor Werner Haase, was assigned as his escort physician. Professor Theodore Morell, who was reputed for syphilis treatment prescription, became Hitler's physician and a member of the Fuhrer's inner circle by the late 1930s and may have been responsible for worsening his health.

    Hitler suffered from at least two health problems when he first met Morell, including gastro-intestinal pain with accompanying flatulence, which has also been attributed to his vegetarian diet, and skin lesions on his thighs. Later during the war, while still under Morell's care, he developed an irregular heartbeat and aggressive tremors throughout the left side of his body. He also became dependent on methamphetamine that Morell supplied to him daily with other compounds, including Nux Vomica which contains strychnine. Initially described as "vitamultin", the mix later became "vitamultin forte". This was administered via injection and small tablets packaged in gold wrappers. By 1945, Hitler was using cocaine as well, which Morell applied via eye drops for Hitler's vision troubles. Other attending doctors are known to have criticized Morell, only to be brushed off by Hitler. During the 1920s and 1930s in Germany, both cocaine and methamphetamine were routinely prescribed for many ailments.
    I beleive that these health issues are what drove him to kill himself when it all was about to end
    the man was a genius and I think he couldve taken over the world if he hadnt concentrated on the jews


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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    I think he was a mentally deranged deviant. I will say this though, he was smart. Mind you he had to have some kind of mental disorder but he was very smart. I mean a man doesn't become a dictator by being an idiot. Idiots never make it. Hitler was a very sick man. Why I say he is smart though is that he got to his position legally. He was too cocky also and just plain deranged. But he was a master at manipulating people and he seemed to fool everyone around him. I have watched shows talking about him and the people who were there during his reign admitted that he just seemed to cast a spell over everyone. He made them believe that they could do the impossible. Also the League of Nations is a little to blame for Hitler's rising because when he started getting land they gave it to him. He had already claimed a military zone called the Rhineland and half of Czechoslavakia before he attacked Poland and the League of Nations declared war on him. Before that they thought he was just going to take that land and not anymore. Thank goodness Winston Churchill became the head of parliament. He and Roosevelt saw through Hitler from the start.

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by frr_vegeta
    And I don't get the "Hitler was crazy" routine. He showed no signs whatsoever of being psychotic, or having any other psychological conditions. Anti-semitism does not mean psychosis. I am a student of psychology and I enjoy the subject greatly. What I do not enjoy are people who are quick to claim someone is "crazy" or "I have ADD!!!"

    Cut the crap and save it for the poor few who really are victims of psychological problems. A psychotic man would not have the demeanor to sucessfully run a country for more than 3 minutes.
    Veg, as always I respect your opinion very much however I want to clearify my statements since they seem to have presented the wrong meaning.

    I never stated he was not intelligent quite the opposite actually since most psychotic people are rather intelligent, however I was very much right about him having psychotic elements.

    As a subject of great interest to me as well, I have taken several college level Physiology and Sociology classes, in one of them we read this very interesting article I based my earlier comments on. One I believe (given it is written by Dr. Henry A. Murray, Director of the Harvard Psychological Clinic) will be hard to refute.

    http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/lib...onovan/hitler/

    It details a number of elements Hitler had, and evidence in his life that are classified as well psychotic in my opinion.

    In fact from the article I am sure you will see where his psychosis actually fueled his success (if you want to call it that).

    Please do read and let me know if I am wrong or misstated my findings.


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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    that guy was power crazed. he almost won the war if he hadnt decide to draw troops to attack Russia. he had the whole Germany surrounded.

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