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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    I really didn't want to post my views, but I will throw something to think about. ^_^

    Let me say this, and I will expand later. Hitler cannot be called just as intelligent. The word intelligence is rather a vague term to use, in this case, without an adjective preceding it. You can even call a school student, who excels on all subjects as intelligent. But, is the term used in both of these cases means the same thing? Loosely speaking, both are smart, but the product of the intelligence is different. They are used for different objectives. If the outcome brings about unnecessary destruction/violence, can we still refer the cause (Hitler) of that destruction/violence as intelligent? I presume that he did possess intelligence, but I highly doubt if that intelligence led to an expansion his consciousness. Intelligence is something that is used to understand how things are, how things work, and how to work with those things in hand. It allows us to control senses, but more importantly, the function that intelligence needs to serve is to let the consciousness of the mind to rise to a higher state.

    Anyway! I left a lot of blanks in my speech, but all I am trying to say is that intelligence by itself is not the right term to be used here. There are different types and varying degrees of intelligence. For example, The Divine God is Universal intelligence or Divine intelligence. Universal intelligence is a higher complex term, and to explain it, words are simply inadequate. Anyway! There is spiritual intelligence and a lot others, which I wish not to speak of. Psychotic Intelligence?

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spymonk
    Ok i just wanna say that none of the things Hitler didi has to do with Hitler intellect.To me we must discus the persons intelligence not to what his intelligence lead hime to do.

    So was he intelligent or not.??????????
    So what he was a racist there were so many racists all over the world.He only took his racist conviction to the ultimate leavel but u know what he was not the only one.
    USA - Indians
    Do we actually know how many they killed.Saying it was war.
    Australia - Aberiginies
    How many did they kill.

    Come who else.

    U guys are stuck on Hitler but this is just wrong like he was the only man in the history of mankind to kill for racist believe and conviction....

    I will give him credit and say he was intelligent
    Well, yeah of course there r gonna be other ppl who did something similar to Hitler... probably not as worse. It really doesn't mean we're dwellin on Hitler.... I just find him more fascinating lol ...and he definitely caused more of a fuss
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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebrum
    Adolf Hitler - Still a well known figure up until this day.
    Would anyone really consider him an intelligent man?
    In my opinion, he was just at the right place in the right time.
    Someone had to be blamed and he was there to steer everyone in that direction.
    So I guess in a sense he is cunning and manipulative.....but I would hardly use the word 'intelligent'.
    Wats ur opinion on this topic?
    No no intelligence my friend Its ignorance and stupidity!

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Quote Originally Posted by yumyum92
    i don't think he was mad i think he was just a dumb ass who was power hungry and at that time there many ppl who didn't like jews so he used that to his advantege, but remamber there had to be other ppl behide this other then him, he was just the guy the public sees just in case something goes wrong...like the president
    I don't think he hated jews and stuff...I think he only needed a scapegoat so he chose ppl that were different and he knew would get persecuted for their differences to get the peoples back up... that's like the perfect plan to make something big like that...
    If they really had a desire to live, they would've been more aware of how easy it is to die.

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Syphilis is also known to make the victim paranoid and fear certain things

    I beleive this is what made him go after the jews to such an extreme I think he beleived everything he said about the jews

    I dont think the tremors were related to the syphilis I think they were related to his parkinson's which I mentioned in my previous post

    Hitler's tremors and irregular heartbeat during the last years of his life could have been symptoms of tertiary syphilis. Along with another doctor, Morell diagnosed them as such by early 1945 in a joint report to Heinrich Himmler. Some historians have also cited Hitler's discussion of syphilis across fourteen pages of Mein Kampf, which he called a "Jewish disease", leading to speculation he may have had the disease himself, since it may be difficult to imagine another reason for such a tirade.

    Since the 1870s, however, it was a common rhetorical practice on the völkisch right to associate Jews with diseases such as syphilis. Historian Robert Waite claims Hitler tested negative on a Wassermann test as late as 1939 although this does not prove that he did not have the disease as the Wasserman test was prone to false results. Regardless of whether he actually had syphilis or not, Hitler lived in constant fear of the disease and took treatment for it no matter what doctors told him.

    In his biography of Dr Felix Kersten, called The Man with the Miraculous Hands[1], journalist and Académie française member Joseph Kessel wrote of how in the winter of 1942 Kersten heard of Hitler's medical condition. Consulted by his patient, Heinrich Himmler, as to whether he could "assist a man who suffers from severe headaches, dizziness and insomnia", Kersten was shown a top secret twenty-six page report. It detailed how Hitler had contracted syphilis in his youth and was treated for it at a hospital in Pasewalk, Germany. However in 1937 symptoms re-appeared, showing the disease was still active, and by the start of 1942 signs were evident that progressive syphilitic paralysis (Tabes dorsalis) was occurring. Himmler advised Kersten that Dr Theodore Morell was in charge of Hitler's treatment, and that it was a state secret. The book also relates how Kersten learnt from Himmler's secretary, Rudolf Brandt that, at that time, probably the only other people privy to the report's information were Martin Bormann and Hermann Göring.


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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    Hitler was a national socialist (a.k.a. Nazi). He was a lefty. That was the problem. All forms of socialism ultimately fail. Yes, Hitler was also an art student. Most art students of today are socialists. It's O.K. if they stick to making art but I do not want to promote them or any other socialists to positions of political authority. Hitler, the national socialist, taught us all that. The German people let Hitler's socialist vision of a utopian future seduce them. That is one reason I don't buy the utopian visions of today's socialists--liberals, feminists, Hollywood actors, and so-on.

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    I think that Hitler was just like any person-- he was a mixed bag. He was great at political maneuvering and making people see what he wanted them to see. So in that way he was very skilled and intelligent. On the other hand, he had all the millitary skill of a rabbid babboon. So in that way he was a balding rabbid babboon. He had his problems...but that doesn't change what he was good or bad at.

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    Re: The Hitler intellect.

    i think Hitler was a very intelligent man, but i guess he used his intellects in the wrong way... he could have saved a lot of lives... but instead he almost eradicated the Jews, from which, as far as I know, he came from...

    it's such a shame...
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