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Old Dec 03, 2007, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

I saw that there was another thread about gays, and I'm not trying to repeatative but, do you think that Homosexuality is a disease or an Instinct/your born gay?

Reason I ask is because many people say that homosexuality is a disease. It's something that can be helped and taught. But then there are others that say that they are born gay and that it was more than choice to be with someone of the same sex. It was their insticnt, their own personal preference like how the majority of the population has an instinct and personal preference to the opposite sex.

I want to know what you guys personally think.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 08:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

O_o uh... disease? that's a little ridiculous...

anways, you choose who to love, no matter what that person is.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 08:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

A disease?! You have GOT to be kidding me.

Homosexuality is a CHOICE. God made a MAN and a WOMAN. If he meant us to be with the same sex, he would have just made two Adams.

Can't argue that logic. Sorry.

I personally think it's gross. People who make excuses for it are just too afraid to say what they truly feel.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 08:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

how the hell would it be a disease.....you are born that way it just takes some people longer than other to figuer out that they are so HELLZ NO its not a EFFIN disease!!
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 09:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

from what i have read so far the only thing i see is people
who arnt sure what to think about gays they are only going by
what they have heard,so i will givemypoint of view on this.

first of all being gay dsont mean you only prefer the same gender
it also means that a part of you wants something that only some one
of the same gender can give you or themfor other than the obviouse reason
gay men tedn to want other guys becuase women cant really understand the guy
emotionaly. but another guy could and can thats is basicly whats makessomemen become gay.

not the typical guy who is streight would say a woman knows what
they want and need ina relations ship makes since right? wellnot if your
gay from what i said befor so that provesit isnt a disease its a choce on who
can relate to you better in your mind whish for gays is another guy or women
depending on your gender
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 10:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

If you can choose to be gay, then rationally you can choose to be straight right?
So then whats the big deal if people choose to be gay?

Gays shun the opposite sex, straights shun the same sex.

Straights love the opposite sex, Gays shun them.

You decide who you shun right? So if it is a choice, then wats the big deal if people want to be with someone of the same sex?

Becuase god wanted it to be a man and a woman?
Honey, if god wanted something, he'd get it right the first time right?
Come on, hes God for crying out loud, give him a little more credit right?

Besides what god wants or doesnt want doesnt apply to those who dont believe him anyway right?
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 10:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

What?!?!

I swear I must have done drugs in a past life, or maybe I've just hit my head to many time in this life.

Disease!

Yeah, it's a disease, let's all go down to the clinic and get our vacination... don't forget your booster shots kids! Quarantine them all! Get the hand gel and the Lysol!

I have been around gay people all my life, and NONE of them chose it. In fact most fought it. Some unfortunately hurt others by denying who they were. You can only fight it so long before it destroys you, or others around you.

Perhaps, if people stopped treating GAY as something that can be cured, and started realizing that who you love does not matter, the world will be a better place.

It is not simply a choice. People don't just wake up one day, and say hey I'll take a slice of gay with my mashed potatoes. It's something that is there. It's just a matter of when they recognize it, and if they choose to fight it. Worse yet is when they have people around them saying it's wrong, and can be "fixed" or "cured".

When my Dad passed away suddenly, I had to put in a transfer. Someone needed to care for my Mom and youngest sister. I couldn't just leave, I had to wait for the transfer, and take care of them at the same time. I wasn't sure how I would be able to do this. I had lent a friend some money to put a down payment on their house. They came to me and said they had prayed and G_d had told them that I had been guided to lend the money so they (my friend had an 18 year old son) could have a home, and that now it was their time to help me. They had an extra room, and they were supposed to let me stay there, and I only had to pay for my own food. That way I could send my wages down to my Mom and sister. Blah, blah, blah...

Any way. I wasn't even fully moved in, and had been there for about 2 or 3 hours before it all happened. My friend had asked me to go to their "church" a few times (Pentecostal). I nicely said yes. I was different from what I had experienced before, but... well... whatever. Well my friend says that we can all go to church together every night. I politely declined. My friend started freakin' out saying about how they had been gay before, and had I know it?

No.

Well, I can't have you here, you're tempting me, and my spiritual adviser says you have to leave. He and his wife will stay with me till I am okay.

SAY WHAT?

I had never know they were gay, sorry HAD BEEN gay. Pahlease! One of the things that had turned me off from their church was when one of the members who had "shared his story" with me. He had told me how he had once been gay, but that the Pentecostal church had cured him. CURED him! His words, not mine. What a crock!

This is just one example of how others get hurt when who you are is denied. One moment I was a part of G_d's plan, the next I was the snake in the garden waving an apple. All because their church said that being gay was a sickness that could be cured.

I have another friend that says he always knew he was gay, but that his father was military, it he just couldn't admit it. He went into the military as well. He even went so far as to get married and have a son. Problem was that once he found the love of his life, he could no longer fight who he was. His only regret is that he did not come out sooner.

People should not be judged on if they love the same sex, or they opposite sex. Who cares who you love, so long as you love.
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Old Dec 03, 2007, 10:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

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What?!?!

I swear I must have done drugs in a past life, or maybe I've just hit my head to many time in this life.

Disease!

Yeah, it's a disease, let's all go down to the clinic and get our vacination... don't forget your booster shots kids! Quarantine them all! Get the hand gel and the Lysol!

I have been around gay people all my life, and NONE of them chose it. In fact most fought it. Some unfortunately hurt others by denying who they were. You can only fight it so long before it destroys you, or others around you.

Perhaps, if people stopped treating GAY as something that can be cured, and started realizing that who you love does not matter, the world will be a better place.

It is not simply a choice. People don't just wake up one day, and say hey I'll take a slice of gay with my mashed potatoes. It's something that is there. It's just a matter of when they recognize it, and if they choose to fight it. Worse yet is when they have people around them saying it's wrong, and can be "fixed" or "cured".

When my Dad passed away suddenly, I had to put in a transfer. Someone needed to care for my Mom and youngest sister. I couldn't just leave, I had to wait for the transfer, and take care of them at the same time. I wasn't sure how I would be able to do this. I had lent a friend some money to put a down payment on their house. They came to me and said they had prayed and G_d had told them that I had been guided to lend the money so they (my friend had an 18 year old son) could have a home, and that now it was their time to help me. They had an extra room, and they were supposed to let me stay there, and I only had to pay for my own food. That way I could send my wages down to my Mom and sister. Blah, blah, blah...

Any way. I wasn't even fully moved in, and had been there for about 2 or 3 hours before it all happened. My friend had asked me to go to their "church" a few times (Pentecostal). I nicely said yes. I was different from what I had experienced before, but... well... whatever. Well my friend says that we can all go to church together every night. I politely declined. My friend started freakin' out saying about how they had been gay before, and had I know it?

No.

Well, I can't have you here, you're tempting me, and my spiritual adviser says you have to leave. He and his wife will stay with me till I am okay.

SAY WHAT?

I had never know they were gay, sorry HAD BEEN gay. Pahlease! One of the things that had turned me off from their church was when one of the members who had "shared his story" with me. He had told me how he had once been gay, but that the Pentecostal church had cured him. CURED him! His words, not mine. What a crock!

This is just one example of how others get hurt when who you are is denied. One moment I was a part of G_d's plan, the next I was the snake in the garden waving an apple. All because their church said that being gay was a sickness that could be cured.

I have another friend that says he always knew he was gay, but that his father was military, it he just couldn't admit it. He went into the military as well. He even went so far as to get married and have a son. Problem was that once he found the love of his life, he could no longer fight who he was. His only regret is that he did not come out sooner.

People should not be judged on if they love the same sex, or they opposite sex. Who cares who you love, so long as you love.
That is soooo sad : (
i totally agree, i just wish we could live a life without labels.
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

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That is soooo sad : (
i totally agree, i just wish we could live a life without labels.
beautifully spoken. there IS a genetic difference for homosexuals so if a gay guy sneezes on you wont catch it.
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Re: Is homosexuality a disease or are you born gay?

Hahaha! Your very funny itachigirl!

HAVE YOU SEEN A BABY BORN GAY/LESBIAN? Hahaha... Only in your dreams Its a choice of a person of what he/she wants to be! Dont care... And another one it is'nt disease! Hahaha Its really hard to explain.. Well it is'nt disease cause they do not affect other people except they want to be in the same situation.. Hehehe, or they have been referred! Hahaha!! Ohh.. This thread really makes me laugh.. Sorry. For short,THEY'LL BE WHAT THEY LOVE! Understood? Easy question.. Easy to explain! Totally i hate seeing them.. But i really does'nt care!
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That easy! Well those gay and lesbian should reply to this thread and i'm sure you'll get more information about them.. Ask them! Thanks
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People should not be judged on if they love the same sex, or they opposite sex. Who cares who you love, so long as you love.
Very well put, Umbriel. I applaud what u said, I personally do not believe that God would discriminate against his children 'cause of their preferences; but that's jus' my belief. Yet this is a very complicated question and the answer is equally complicated. I feel that this question isn' the real question, though, but rather the real question should b "what causes mankind ta react so negatively towards such behavior? And is it (meanin' discrimination) a disease?" I get very upset when ppl discriminate against others for ridiculous reasons such as race, sexual preferences, etc. This is why I wonder if the "discrimination" is the disease. I think that mankind has a tendency ta try and simplify things and when they come across somethin' like this they label it as a "disease" or a "psychological disorder" and think that they can "cure" it. It's like they think that mankind has the monopoly on such behavior, that it's exclusive ta our species only. If it is a "disease," then it's a cross-species strain, 'cause evry other species has it. Maybe there is a "genetic anomoly" or a "psychological disorder" which "might" explain away "some" of this behavior (but not "all"), if there is; I have yet ta c it. I think that mankind should jus' leave things like this alone and stop tryin' ta fix things that they "percieve" as "unusual" and not sit in judgement.
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