Miroku4444

So you forced your beliefs on her? Thats as bad as when the religious ppl do it. Not a good way to give atheist a good reputation. Also just because shes religious doesn't mean shes in a cult. Sounds like the wrong ppl were deprogrammed.

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MisMelS

Okay, anyone who is interested check out my blogg section. I am getting ready to post the actual letter. Comments are welcome.

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Tbaism

LOL shodokan, I wasn't able to post a response to that last night, but I have to say it made it so I couldn't sleep at night.

That sounds almost downright sick and twisted man. I mean, messing with a person that much? Me and you need to meet up and discuss somw things face to face, because your actions can fall under the mental issues psychopaths deal with everyday. Not to mention the significance of the damage you have or could have seriously inflicted on that girl.

Omg I almost want to write a thesis on you..I bet that could get me a reward and a masters degree with ease.

Refrain from messing with peoples minds alright. It isn't like physically beating someone, psychologically is so much more permanent and also very much in the field of the unknown. You are destroying the foundations of beliefs and escape paths from fear and regret. I mean, who knows what your cousin could be planning for you or what you could have/already have done.

Atleast leave those situations to a professional or study on debate to make sure you can remove the foundations without destroying the person.

Deprogramming aye? Was that an electronics manual you studied?

Shu

yeah, you kinda exaggerated it.

but yeah, he was wrong. i hate when people force their beliefs on others.

Shodokan

This made you so you couldn't sleep at night?

We broke her and made her better than she was before. It's kinda like taking something apart to rebuild it to be stronger than it was before. Because she went to a poor black school her english, math and other subject skills were very poor.
It was very hard for her to catch up but my parents pushed her very hard and in a couple of months she was just as good or better than her classmates in the same subjects she had such a hard time in.

She's 16 now. My parents are going to make sure she does very well in life. She isn't going to become pregnant as a teenager like her mother or grandmother did. She has at least a 3.0 grade point average and she'll go to college and have a better life than her religious relatives could have offered her.

Yeah I'm sure when she gets a 50k or even a 100k with benefits she'll gun down me and my family. You know when she first came to us other relatives said she cried herself to sleep at night. She never did.
Even when she slept in the same room as me I never heard her cry herself to sleep. I'm not sure why she was happy at our place and so sad at other places but she was.

Sorry I went on such a big rant about her. She's been living with us for years so she's more like a sister than a cousin so I kinda went overboard.

It may seem like you're destroying the person but you are not. You're shattering beliefs that may shatter them to the very core but inexchange for that they become something better.

It doesn't always have to be about religion. It can be something much more simplier. For example I knew this 14 year old girl. She was very kind but she was naive as hell. She started messing with this 22 year old guy. She even told me she was in love with him. "I love him so much I would do anything for him he tells me how much he loves me too, we'll stay together forever." take a genius to figure out why a 22 year old with mess with a 14 year old.

I could have beat the crap out of him since I'm a couple inches taller than him and much more stronger than he is. Instead I decided to completely and utterly destory her love for him. I pretended to be his friend, hung out and got high with him.

After I gained his trust I asked him what he thought of Sarah. He admitted to me that he was taking advantage of her young age and naiviety. I also made sure he "renounced his love for her or whatever." Unknown to him I taped recorded our conversation.

I played the tape to her. She dropped to her knees and started crying so hard. I don't think I've seen someone cry that hard in my life. I tried to comfort her but she just told me to go away. After that Sarah and her teenage friends thought I was a pretty cool dude. She told me she was sorry for being mean to me when I told her she had no business going out with a 20 something year old guy and he was only using her.

The 22 year old guy tried to start something with me but I told him if he ever came near her or called her or did anything I would beat the shit out of him AND call the police. Of course after all that I told her to wait till she was 17(age of consent in Texas) to go after any 20 year olds and she agreed.

Heres a quick article explaining what I meant by deprogramming.
Deprogramming - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Priestess Angel

In my mind, no I don’t think that homosexuality is a sin. I know that the bible has said that it is against homosexuality but I kind of think of the bible as a guideline myself. I mean the bible was written by human men. Men with imperfections, beliefs, and prejudices just like all of the people on Earth. I know for a fact that there were many religious texts that were of Christian faith that were left out of the bible because it went against some of the beliefs the religious persons had at the time.

I, also, don’t think that it is a sin because I don’t think that someone who is homosexual has a choice in the matter. Take Robert Reed for example (he played the Mike Brady in the Brady Bunch). He was a homosexual and he hated that. He did everything he could to try to make himself be a straight but the simple fact was that he was attracted to men and was disgusted when he tried to have any sort of intimate intercourse with a woman (he could barely stand to kiss Maureen McCormick a.k.a Mrs. Brady). When I hear a story like that I just can’t believe that if someone is a homosexual they have a choice in the matter.

And you know I might be wrong about this. Heck, we may all be wrong to a certain extent but this is what I think.

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Tbaism

Shu was on the dot when he said I exaggerated a bit.

We can rebuild her! We have the technology! Better, faster, stronger than before. That deprogramming must have definentally been related to technology and software.

Hmm...better aye? That is kinda messed up man. It is all good to fill in the void, but really crushing a belief and replacing it forcefully is out there...I mean out there.

Why exactly was she wrong or what she believed in? You have got to think of yourself pretty highly to run around like that.

Eh, still don't say the end justifies the means.

Miroku4444

The educating of her was fine, they didn't have to destroy her faith. She could have still done all those things, and still have her faith. They helped her in one way, but harmed her in another by destroying her beliefs.

Well anyhow were off topic lets get back on.

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