lebasiara

They aren't born with this.... it is a free choice.... and if you read well that "legend" you'll find out that God distroyed it not only for that but also because they commit a lot more sins than that.... Also don't only read that part.... read the prayer that Abraham does for the city chapters before...... see the questions of Abraham and the response of God....

God created men and women right? He did not made them gay to begin with.... men and women screwed up..... that's it.... it is on human nature to put in doubt God and His works.... it is in human nature to sin against God and then justify its actions.... it is on human nature to be coward enough to not accept that we are wrong... it is on human nature to screw up and then say: God made me like this.....

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Lasura

I know there were many other sins the people of Sodoma and Gomora,that's what I tried to say writting that their degeneration wasbeyond believe...
The thing is that I'm sure that most homosexuals have something different in their minds from the begining for some just can't stand the thought about having sex with the opsit sex, it's in their body, they have different hormons I think, but I'm not spoiling about that, can't say I'm right, don't think I'm REALLY wrong...

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Shu

the bolded statement sums up your whole argument.

yes, they are. they're NOT gay by choice. no one wakes up one morning and says "hey, i think ill be gay. yeah, that might be fun."

coward enough? if god is so great like you make him out, then he would be able to control people and not make them go against him. he is god after all! the high and mighty!

you dont get a choice in the matter of choosing your sexuality. look it up. its called science.

Lasura

You said it!!! (in this post in the quote and the next post)
Though I think some maybe do, but it's different, it's idiotic and it's not normal, people like these are the ones to hate... they, I think are really making a sin...
And thanks for tha laugh shu!

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lebasiara

He is what he is He does not need to give you or me explanations... He did not make robots... yes He IS almighty and great and there is no doubt for me about that...
Back to topic... YES being gay is a choice... and YES it is a sin.... I am not condemning anyone as I said it is not my place to do that. ^_^ Being gay it is a choice.... not a night to the morning choice....

Science huh?.... I don't agree what it says about it.... but... that's my belief... and I'll appreciate that you respect my opinion as I respect yours...
I don't agree with your opinion but I respect it....
End of discussion for me...

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_gwenibe_

No it's not a 'sin' if you even believe in sinning. What so wrong with it? especially if it comes down to love, who really cares? it's their life..

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divine_punishment

Here is what CARM (Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry) says:
There are those who like to say that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality. Various verses are cited (out of context) and the verses that people use to show that homosexuality is wrong are explained away. The world wants to change God's words and meanings into something more suitable to its sinful desires. Nevertheless, the truth stands: The Bible condemns homosexuality as a sin. Let's look at what it says.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against the created order of God. He created Adam and then made a woman. This is what God has ordained and it is what is right. Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:18ff). As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.

What should be the Christian's Response to the Homosexual?

Just because someone is a homosexual does not mean that we cannot love him (or her) or pray for him (her). Homosexuality is a sin and like any other sin, it needs to be dealt with in the only way possible. It needs to be laid at the cross, repented of, and never done again.
As a Christian, you should pray for the salvation of the homosexual the same you would any other person in sin. The homosexual is still made in the image of God -- even though he is in grave sin. Therefore, you should show him same dignity as anyone else you come in contact with. However, this does not mean that you are to approve of their sin. Don't compromise your witness for a socially acceptable opinion that is void of godliness.

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_gwenibe_

Well I don't believe in the bible. Hence why I said I don't think it's a 'sin'. I don't see anything wrong with.

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Lasura

I'm sad to say (for I am a Christian and I truly believe in god) and I too believe not in the bible... the bible was written by men, not god, and no matter what men can't writte about anything (and especially if it's about something so important as Christianity) without putting their attitude in it... all the stories about Christ seem like simple romans about a great man... Also bible has been changed due time, different needs of the church and translation...
So my thoughts are not changed (much) but I do respect your thoughts and they are not wrong to me, actually we need people who believe it's a sin, beucause they stop homosexuality for taking as completely normal (witch is bad, as I'm trying to say all the time) and... spreding...
I just believe in what I've been tought at school about homosexuality... it's not natural, but sometimes such tings happen... there were even some animals that were sometimes homosexual and they don't ussualy choose, don't they... hmm...

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Hassun

According to the bible it's clearly regarded as bad/sinful.
So yes, it's a sin.
divine_punishment has the answer.

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hellknight

I like it better when regular girls like me, not a homo hitting on me on a another site and flirting.