Mini Dev

Today i was being taught geography, and we were talking about illegal immigrants crossing the boarder from Mexic to America. Do you think it is right or wrong that immigrants illegally cross the boarder into america? Before you answer think about this...

Mexico: This is a rather poor country in certain areas and not everybody can be treated for. The facts state that every one doctor in Mexico has 1,800 Patients to deal with. In America there is only 500 patients to be dealt with per doctor. This increases your medical attention span just in case one day you really need help. Also on the outskirts of New Mexico city come the shack like houses that people themselves have built. They have no electricty and don't have a job. This may persuade some Mexico's to get out of that country as quick as possible wouldn't you think? 1/3 of Mexico was stolen by the Americans giving them less space to live and taking their native lands. People with no future are stuck in a blackhole as everyday they beg for food and clean fresh water. In order for illegal immigrants to get into America they often need a tutor. They pay this tutor $200 which is approximmatley 1 years worth or savings. Others tend to pay their life savings in order to cross the boarder, for some lucky immgrants they cross the boareder safe and uncaught looking for a better life. Others are unfortunate and waste their money starting from scratch one. If your wondering why people cross illegally instead of legally, one. You need money, two, it takes aprox: 10 months to get the correct papers and passports to cross legally. After all the hassle they skip a chapter in the legal system and cross hoping for a new life.

Mexicans In America: Now not all Mexicans get a better life in America. Some tend to be unfortunate and ruine there life or if they are really unlucky die. The fortunate ones get a job with very low pay and figure out their lives renting a flat and think it's heaven, this helps America because Mexicans usually end up with jobs in factories introducing slave labour. Without these Mexicans most factories will probably close down because they cannot afford to pay the American wage. People would say it is a 50%-50% chance leading to heaven or hell.

My Opnion: I think illegal immigrants should still keep coming in to America they help America and sort their own lives out, as we should all be treated with equality. So what do you guys all belive? Is it right? Or is it wrong?

atomik_sprout

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Mini Dev

I must say this is a very true fact they are probably expected to get kicked out but for many a new life is in that club

anime_being_god

HEY! Im a mexican you know, illegal to, I still have my diginity though, and....my balls.lol J/k J/K J/K not true, im not mexican!

Na, actually I agree with you completly on this, America is not their country, they cant just walk in and demand things.

That would be like me walking into Atomik's crip and demanding somethin to eat, and a place to sleep.lol America is a free country open to those who want to come and go, but you must do it the right way. I mean at least were kind enough to let you in, then you should return the favor and do it correctly

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Mini Dev

Agreed also but, put yourself in their shoes, no life expections, no money, no house, no car, no job and then it comes down to would you do it if you could? Because living like that isn't well so you must think of their point of view aswell as Americans, oh and that designer shirt that people may be wearing, say goodbye to that if you kick those Mexicans out.

anime_being_god

I can see your point, but you must also think for the better of America at the same time, if we were to let every illegal immgarnt in becuase they looked hungry and/or poor, think about how much our country could go wack becuase of the over load of people....it would be very bad, not to mention a potential terroist may be lurking in within those illegals as well.....we have to do something about it

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Arrianna

It was closer to 1/2 and that is a load of crock. Native Lands? The US Mexican war was not a war of "natives" and invaders but two governments set up by foreign entities. Mexico is the remains of what had been a huge empire conquered by Spain. It begin falling apart even before they declared their independence from Spain the same way the US did from England. What's more the Mexican government encouraged US citizens to settle in their territories then took their right to rule themselves away from them. Sound familiar? The war was nothing more then the citizens WHO LIVED THERE deciding for themselves who would rule them and the two governments duking it out in support or opposition to them. The borders were determined by a treaty by both governments and additional land was sold to the US AFTERWARD by the Mexican President. It had nothing to do with Native vs anyone else in any way.
The U.S.-Mexican War . Interactive Timeline | PBS

As for Illegal Immigrants in the past I have supported them coming here for an education and then returning to make their country better. Now I don't support even that because of the crises that the continued disdain for the law on the part of massive illegal immigrants has caused. An increase in the number of unregulated poor is NOT good for the US and does nothing for Mexico either. If Mexico is that poor they need to fix it themselves instead of spreading their poverty here. If, on the other hand, they want to stay they need to do it legally or all it shows is a disdain for the law and dams them and their children into a poor situation that cannot improve. 10 months is not a long time compared to the rest of their lives and the lives of their children.

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Mini Dev

Yes but not every immigrant gets through, most get caught anyway and that wont change but at least they have a chance after passing the boarder. Do you beleive their needs to be less or the same illegal immigrants in your country?

atomik_sprout

Yeah, gimme a sandwich!!

I agree with A_B_G. What if I just walked up in to your tilt and said, "Gimme a beer!" You don't know me and you've never seen me until the day I hopped over your back yard fence. What would you think?

Yes, there is a new life in that club. But it's still exclusive as all hell. Do you think the Hair Club for Men would let me in with a big ass afro? Do you think that I could just boat to Japan and sneak my way in un-noticed? Could I live a full "new and happy" life as an illegal in any country? I don't think so. There's more burden than there is advantage. Like jail time and deportation (which ultimately lands you right back where you started).

LOL. We can switch to child labor when the Mexicans leave. Joking, joking!

On a serious note though: I can't physically put myself in my shoes, nor would I want to be in those shoes, but I can understand where they're comin' from. Everyone wants to make something in their life better and in most cases the thing their trying to improve is their own life. BUT, sneaking across border lines isn't gonna solve any problems. The more illegal immigrants we get, the less resources we have for our own citizens. And that's why it's a big problem for me. I work, get paid (not under the table) pay my taxes, I even do something for charity from time to time. Why should I have little to nothing still, but the illegals are drivin' new trucks, havin' babies and takin' up the space that could've been used to help someone who's from here!

Would I do it if I was in their shoes?? Hellz no! I don't like the idea of goin' to jail, nor do I like the idea of starting with sh*t and ending with sh*t. If they want to make their lives better, than maybe they should start at home (key word: HOME! H-O-M-E). They could write their government, protest, start a faction and begin plans on revolution... SOMETHING other than being sneaky and hoping not to get caught.

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Joe Mage

I haveta agree wit atomik, arrianna, and A_B_G on this one, all of what they're sayin' is completely true. Not ta mention the economic disaster that would happen if we suddenly decided ta legalise all of the illegals in this country, our nation jus' simply wouldn' be able ta cope. And jus' think of the other repercussions that would happen as a result, more illegal immigrants would enter in the hopes that it would happen for them, further destabilizin' the country's economy. And that's why we have procedures for these things, so that a country's economy has time ta cope wit the new arrivals. Otherwise, they would have nothin' for them when they arrive, except for the very thing that they were tryin' ta leave in the first place; poverty. It kinda like this, let's take atomik's and A_B_G's examples; let's say A_B_G wants ta stay at atomik's house and jus' decided ta show up, what would happen ta atomik's resources given the fact that A_B_G didn' ask atomik, nor had given suffecient warnin', of his decision ta move in? Would atomik b able ta suffeciently cope, i.e have enough food, drinks, cash, etc., wit havin' an unexpected guest livin' wit him?

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lebasiara

I am a little split in this issue. Before anything: I am a foreigner, I am from latin America. I know and have seen some hard situations myself and I have also seen people leaving their families because of the "American Dream". However, I do not believe that making the things illegally improve anything. Yes it maybe allow the immigrant to get some money for his/her family but the risk is very high, the migration people is not very sweet when it comes to deal with an illegal immigrant. I know that almost first hand. I saw my co-workers hiding from "the law" because if they get cought they are going to be trated as criminals. They are going to be beaten up and stuff.
As I said before, they can "improve" their family status in Mexico or whatever country they belong to, but they have to live their lifes as fugitives... most of the time.

Another thing... if someone comes here illegally and gets the blessing of succesing getting some money he/she should look for legalize his/her papers. For me it is not right to stay that way if you can change the status. I know it takes a while but it is very worthy.

it is also very true that one of the things that help this country to grow is the immigrant work. However, they cannot give them the guarantees that a citizen or resident has. They are illegal, and I think that this country has its right to put in priority those that are concern enough to be here legally.

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