koga23

Iv bin thinking about the subject on people that come to the US illegally so figure to see what every one else thought about this subject,should people that e illegal be allowed to stay in the US or set back were they came from????

I would like to know what u think about this subject

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jaam0927

this is a very complicated topic... but from the lil I can say...
well most of the ppl that come here just com 2 work and to send money 2 their families... now if u r an immigrant, u know how hard can be 4 u 2 get ur papers.
I am an immigrant, and getting my tourist visa a couple of years ago b4 I moved here to the US, was a hella complicated process. "u need this and that, and some of that too"... when u think u have it... u need something else. that might sound kinda simple, but NO!... u need to meet some requirements that often the most needed ppl cant complete. thats why ppl come illegally.
now Imagine how hard its 2 get ur resident papers, the wait, the frustration, like hell dude...
now to if they should stay... I say they find all of the immigrants they can, and run a profile check of them. If they find that they have broken any law(besides coming here illegally) send them back...
If they find nothing bad, they see that they are hard working ppl and that they actually want to contribute and be part of the country, at least give them a working visa and give them a chance to fix their papers...
cuz its not fair that cuz of a couple of lazy immigrants the rest have to be doomed.

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_gwenibe_

I see it as a good and bad thing and maybe even unfair

Good because, some immagrents are escaping violent pasts, starting new in a different country with more oppurtunities for there family.

Bad, because well, populations growth, some countries have enough issues as it is and all of a sudden they got hundreds of illegal immagrants knocking on the door asking for help.

Just a bit unfair - because of those immagrants who moved countries legally and had to wait sometimes years to get there, when illegal - just caught a boat or something over.

I know nothing about America's laws and such, but it seem that the Australians governments way of fixing it is to shove them in a detention center look-a-like in the middle of the desert where they have to wait years to be accepted into Australian Society. Something which I think is a disgusting way to treat some one who has likely escaped horror, but then again, they were the ones who came here illegally.

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deodaclan18

Not to mention they keep taking jobs away from legal americans. It can be hard in some places for even citizens to get a job due due to the lack of employment and how businesses hire the illegal immigrants casue it's cheaper. Also, those jobs are ripping the government off by paying them under the table and not paying taxes. Don't think I hate them or anything though, cause my brother in law happens to be illegal too, lol .

"I know nothing about America's laws and such, but it seem that the Australians governments way of fixing it is to shove them in a detention center look-a-like in the middle of the desert where they have to wait years to be accepted into Australian Society."

That is pretty sick. Kinda reminds me of the jews going to the ghettos, at least they aren't being killed..............

jaam0927

[quote=deodaclan18] Not to mention they keep taking jobs away from legal americans. It can be hard in some places for even citizens to get a job due due to the lack of employment and how businesses hire the illegal immigrants casue it's cheaper. Also, those jobs are ripping the government off by paying them under the table and not paying taxes. Don't think I hate them or anything though, cause my brother in law happens to be illegal too, lol . [quote]

oh wait... I forgot about that... you dont need to be legal here to pay taxes... u just need an ITIN(not sure if thats the name) number... if ur an illegal immigrant and u cares about ur legal status here u need one of those... cuz paying taxes will being here helps when ur resident application(it can be called an application right?) gets reviewed. a couple my parent's friends and some family member that came here illegally did that... no papers and did taxes. now the prob is that most of the immigrant dont do that

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AngelFlow

Even though illegal immigrants come for a better life, I still think they should come Iegally so they don't have to worry about a cop asking for their papers and so it can be fair for others.

_gwenibe_

prehaps some times, they have no choice, maybe they need to get their family out of a very violent situation and they need to do it quick, like jaam said it can take ages sometimes if they go through the proper processes.

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deodaclan18

Think about it. What happens to the U.S. when most of the population becomes spanish or some other ethnic group cause all of the illegal immigrants coming in? Will the U.S. be changed from what it originally was. The day I become irritated is the day the official language of america becomes spanish, no offense to spanish people of course. We have to have balance. We can't just let everyone in because they have problems.
I feel bad for them, but at the same time, we have to look out for the best interest of our country.

Chubz

I have to say that for the majority of it, illegal immigration is bad.

First off, you have to question why these people are coming over illegally. Yes, it takes time to get all your papers and that, but legal immigrants do it, so what should exempt the illegal immigrants? If you want to show loyalty to the country you're moving to, then you should respect the laws of that country. Also, another reason why you have illegal immigrants is that some of them have prior criminal convictions/criminal records which would impede on their ability to enter the country.

Yes, there are cases where you have illegal immigrants who enter illegally due to horrible/violent conditions of their home country. But the cases of that happening with illegal immigrants are few and far between. The majority of them aren't coming from some war torn country. And, for cases where someone is coming from a war torn country, they can apply for 'refugee status.' Funny then, that you don't have as many illegal immigrants applying for that.

Here in BC, we had a problem a couple years ago where we had ships coming over from China with illegal immigrants, but the process was being run by criminal organizations over in China. They were also shipping illegal immigrants over in shipping containers, and there were several incidents here where dead bodies were found in the containers. While the criminal groups were shipping standard illegal immigrants, they were also shipping members of their own groups, who were starting organizations over here in BC. This caused an increase in the crime rate, because groups such as the Snakehead gang (crime group in China) were setting up shop, and sending members through illegally.

The money that the illegal immigrants were paying were HUGE amounts, and their safety wasn't guaranteed or anything (like I said, several showed up dead). Pretty much these illegal immigrants (while not all were criminals) were FUNDING criminal organizations. They could have waited a few years to be accepted, but instead chose to pay huge huge amounts of money to come through illegally.

My dad is originally from Britain, didn't have a criminal record or anything, but was denied entry into Canada I believe 3 times (he even had recommendations on his application from several RCMP officers). Despite that, he never tried to enter Canada illegally. So is it fair that someone should just be allowed to waltz in to a country, without showing respect to that country's laws, and be allowed to stay? I think not.

There are cases where citizenship should be sped up (like in cases of refugee status, or where the person is at risk). But the majority of illegal immigrants aren't at risk. It's simply illegal immigration, nothing more. This causes a back up in the regular immigration process, because the government has to try and control the influx of people. They have to take into account the amount of illegal immigrants entering the country when setting the standard for how many people are allowed in each year, so it jams up the process, making the wait times even longer for those who are coming in properly.

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Bloody Sword

I have to be inbetween the matter because the good thing is that more kids in school the better school can become with more money from the state government and that way they could educat with no problems but on the bad side the adults of the immigration are taking more housing and food and jobs and are making some of the people that were already here angry because the immagrants are taking jobs for less money and they do more.....so I can see the good and bad.....

koga23

this is what i think the government should just throw the illegal immigrates out i kno it seams harsh but there here illegally, but they dont care about it as long as there making money,and as long as illegal immigrates come in to the US it takes away from the ppl that are here legally,

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