Closed Thread
Page 3 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... LastLast
Results 17 to 24 of 51

Thread: Israel V.S Palestine

  1. #17
    I'm all ears. Hassun has disabled reputation
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Pretiacruento
    Posts
    7,700
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 124 Times in 108 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    Then call it a cease fire if you like. Everytime things cool off and they reopen their borders. The statement still stands as accurate. Hamas won't rest until they are all dead, has said so, and has shown so by their own actions. Can you show reason to believe otherwise?


    If you think going in and killing the people trying to kill them is so ineffective you come up with a solution for them that will stop Hamas. I would love to hear it. Give another option that doesn't involve just lying down and taking it, (as no country should have to).
    Terrorists are best fought with intelligence and precision strikes carried out by specialised forces. (Which they're already doing to an unknown extent.)
    Taking on Hamas by plowing through the area in a broad military invasion is just not the best way of doing it in my opinion.

    (On a side note: Hamas is reportedly funded the most from sources in Saudi Arabia, the USA's biggest Arabian ally. Surely something could be done about that. Although I presume good old fashioned greed will make sure nothing significant happens there. )


    And let's theorize Hamas is officially banned. Will it have much positive effect on the situation? Will terrorist attacks disappear? I think the situation would pretty much stay the same but the 'enemy' will just be called 'Al-Qaeda', 'Hamas underground' or something else.

    I don't think every angry Palestinian or member of Hamas is just angry because they hate Jews and want them all dead either. People are mostly angry and become extremists because they're in a shitty situation.


    To compress it all into a sentence or two: Pinpoint strikes and better living conditions for people in Gaza, hell maybe they could finally get a country of their own. Either making Jerusalem open to both or to neither.

  2. #18
    Poultry Projectile Cannon Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Oceanside CA
    Posts
    1,297
    Thanks
    476
    Thanked 171 Times in 152 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    Well here is a link of the first thing I found, well what do you know it is easy to find.
    Any way here you go Hassun.

    The Case for Israel - Google Book Search

    Saudi Arabia is only our "ALLY" on paper to keep some sort of stability in the area (I can't stress enough of the word "some sort" and to have some sort of trade with in the area)
    Why then are they "Allies"? Well you know the saying; Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer comes to mind.

    I am all for accurate air strikes, which they are doing. But you have to remember Terrorist will not hesitate to use their own people they clame to be defending as shields. It's not uncommon for them take over a house and force the family to stay inside and use the house as a platform to launch attacks, forcing the other forces, Israel in this case to destroy the house and every one in side. It’s the way for Terrorist to manipulate the media as a type of psychological warfare to turn other nations against the terrorist enemies. Its a despicable tactic to make them seam justified in their so called "defense" by accusing the other side of targeting civilians when in truth the civilians are being used as shields, and what makes this fact even sadder is that some of the populace are WILLING to be used as shields.
    I was told about that from an actual soldier who goes to Camp Pendleton which is only a few miles from where I live.

    As for having Israel try and improve life in the Gaza strip, well thats kind of hard to do when people are shooting at you and don't want your help. Then why don't the other side help them as they are their own, well thats because they really don't care about them.
    "MY DEAR... I GIVE YOU THE CAPELLAN CONFEDERATION"
    AND THUS THE WAR WAS STARTED NOT BY GUN SHOT BUT BY WEDDING BELLS

  3. #19
    I'm all ears. Hassun has disabled reputation
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Pretiacruento
    Posts
    7,700
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 124 Times in 108 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post
    Well here is a link of the first thing I found, well what do you know it is easy to find.
    Any way here you go Hassun.

    The Case for Israel - Google Book Search
    Could you direct me to the actual pages of the book where it confirms your previous statements such as
    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge
    Palestinians have always persecuted the Jews and actually strongly supported Hitler and his Nazis in getting rid of the Jews and they handed them over to the Germans happily so the two sides have been at odds FAR longer then WWII.
    ?

    The book doesn't seem to be without controversy either by the way.
    Last edited by Hassun; Jan 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM.

  4. #20
    Devil's Advocate TaurusDemon23 may be famous one day TaurusDemon23 may be famous one day TaurusDemon23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Nowhere, Yet Somewhere....
    Posts
    1,531
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 45 Times in 41 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    I know this might be considered a "troll" response, but this is a troll with major hit die(If you never played D&D you'll never understand), dammit!

    If you think about it, aren't the Israelis getting dangerously close to being compared to those quintessential "villains" of World War 2 and their one time tormentors, the Nazis?

    I mean, they got the whole "lebensraum" thing down, needing more land for more jews, taking more and more Palestinian land for settlers.
    Then, they have their Warsaw Ghetto with the Gaza Strip, denying the people stranded in there(yes, I daresay stranded) of the basics with some flimsy excuse after another.

    Now, there's the obscene Palestinian body count during their latest round of "target practice".

    Next thing we know, there will be concentration camps full of Palestinians. Will the Israelis stop when they hit 6,000,000?

    If only there were that many Palestinians, huh?

  5. #21
    Poultry Projectile Cannon Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Oceanside CA
    Posts
    1,297
    Thanks
    476
    Thanked 171 Times in 152 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hassun View Post
    Could you direct me to the actual pages of the book where it confirms your previous statements such as

    ?

    The book doesn't seem to be without controversy either by the way.
    It already does but if doesnt satasfy you then I suggest you look up the info on your own untill you are satasfide as I am not a goffer, also, its no more contraversal then when using wiki for information.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaurusDemon23 View Post
    I know this might be considered a "troll" response, but this is a troll with major hit die(If you never played D&D you'll never understand), dammit!

    If you think about it, aren't the Israelis getting dangerously close to being compared to those quintessential "villains" of World War 2 and their one time tormentors, the Nazis?

    I mean, they got the whole "lebensraum" thing down, needing more land for more jews, taking more and more Palestinian land for settlers.
    Then, they have their Warsaw Ghetto with the Gaza Strip, denying the people stranded in there(yes, I daresay stranded) of the basics with some flimsy excuse after another.

    Now, there's the obscene Palestinian body count during their latest round of "target practice".

    Next thing we know, there will be concentration camps full of Palestinians. Will the Israelis stop when they hit 6,000,000?

    If only there were that many Palestinians, huh?
    WOW that is a trolled respons. and the answer is no they are not because the Israelies are not commiting mass genocide like the Nazis and their Terretory has grown little or not at all. Saying that the Israelies are now playing the roll like the Nazis is very inaccuret. The Israely forces are stronge enough to basicly knock off any of the nations around it in the Middle East with out the help from the US. Also Israel has Nukes, if they really wanted to be like the Nazis and wipe out Palestinions they could do so with out any effert.
    Also, there are Palestinions that live in Israel and have the same standards of living like the Jewish for the most part.
    Not to mention the Nazis set out to conquer and enslave/kill those that they thought were infereior, the Israelies are fighting only in self defense and have had enough of Hamas trying to kill them.
    Your view on the matter (which is basicly what you said) is destorted, like some one looking through a broken colidascope.
    "MY DEAR... I GIVE YOU THE CAPELLAN CONFEDERATION"
    AND THUS THE WAR WAS STARTED NOT BY GUN SHOT BUT BY WEDDING BELLS

  6. #22
    Devil's Advocate TaurusDemon23 may be famous one day TaurusDemon23 may be famous one day TaurusDemon23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Nowhere, Yet Somewhere....
    Posts
    1,531
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 45 Times in 41 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    Well, I can agree that I have a very strange mindset. Some may call it even blasphemous.
    Still, all I said was,"getting dangerously close to being compared to". Plus, I was dealing with a what if scenario. The Israelis are losing the PR war on this one.

    *shrug* What's weird is that everyone sees this as Israel Vs Palestine(and it's been looking like it), yet Israel is saying they're just after Hamas. Do they see all Palestinians as Hamas? Dunno.

    Maybe that's why Hamas is winning the PR war with the Palestinians(and other countries as well.). They(the Palestinians) might figure that, since they're getting considered Hamas by the country blowing them and their shit up, they should act the part. Hamas recruitment rates probably have been higher these past few weeks than they have been in a long while.

    This all will probably go on until UN steps in and forces a truce between the two.

    Everyone will end up getting sick of the nonsense and make them all kiss and make up, though that never happens for long. They all just simply hate each other too much.

    Maybe if they got high during negotiations..........

  7. #23
    Poultry Projectile Cannon Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge is making a name for themselves Scourge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Oceanside CA
    Posts
    1,297
    Thanks
    476
    Thanked 171 Times in 152 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    I wouldnt say blasphamos, just distorted.
    Any way its the media and Hamas who are saying its Palestinions vs. Israel when in fact its Israel vs. Hamas. Hamas knows it cant win against Israel, if they do then they are that mutch more deluded, and are trying to get other Islamic nations involved to help them which why the PR crap to get other Palestinions all riald up. But I highly doubt that any other Islamic nations will as many of them dont like Hamas as well, but they will support them in some sense as they to don't like Israel to some extent, but the vast magority really wouldnt care much if Hamas gets flogged. They may all hate Israel but they are all not united either. I wouldnt be suprise if another Islamic nation trys to move in on Hamas and take them over if they think they could get away with it and not attack Israel.
    "MY DEAR... I GIVE YOU THE CAPELLAN CONFEDERATION"
    AND THUS THE WAR WAS STARTED NOT BY GUN SHOT BUT BY WEDDING BELLS

  8. #24
    Leave me alone, fanboys! rematche is making a name for themselves rematche is making a name for themselves rematche's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    1,801
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 49 Times in 46 Posts

    Re: Israel V.S Palestine

    there will be both blood in both sides and i can say that there's no victor amongst both sides as well. but as the old saying goes, "don't f*** with a jew.", remember that hamas, remember that.
    YYYEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to rematche For This Useful Post:

    Scourge (Jan 15, 2009)

Closed Thread
Page 3 of 7 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. "Israel must be wiped off the map"
    By Arrianna in forum The Thread Vault
    Replies: 63
    Last Post: Nov 23, 2005, 04:52 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts