Jigsaw, is he good or bad

cantsenditback · Sep 28, 2007, 07:38 AM

everyone seen the movie "saw" right?

is jigsaw really good or really bad, on one hand he is getting people to torture themself to teach them a lesson but on the other hand the people he torture does learn a valuable lesson to appericate their life if they do surive the so called game.

in my opinion i say he is kind of good teaching people a lesson, its just that it in a bad way that he teaches the lesson to people

what is your thoughts on jigsaw

*HolderOfTheDarkChalice* · Sep 28, 2007, 10:14 AM

after saw 3 i would have to say he is bad because he took
that little girl like he did and then died without saying anything
of where she is.

the *games* as he called them were pretty
intresting the best one was in the 3rd where
that girl was in the angel wings trap and her ribs
were ripped apart that was evil lol.

jigsaw was dieing and he saw life from
a perspective no one else could he wanted
people to apreciate life like he did but they
died trying so that makes him bad in a good way
if that makes since.

_gwenibe_ · Sep 28, 2007, 03:09 PM

Jigsaws is bad. He kills people. No matter what the reason (bar self-defence) isn't killing a person the wrong thing to do?

Plus if their dead, did they really learn the lesson? So really Jigsaw is just as bad as the people he was 'teaching the lesson to'

but, having only seen the second movie - it was pretty good!

*koga23* · Sep 28, 2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by _gwenibe_

Jigsaws is bad. He kills people.

No he makes people kill them selfs .He never really kills any one which make it all the more interesting.That some one could come up with these elaborate ways to make people kill them selfs to live.

_gwenibe_ · Sep 28, 2007, 06:45 PM

^true, but one could argue that he is indirectly involved. But even so, isn't he the one that puts them in those strange things in the first place? ( again, I've only ever seen the second one). wasn't he the one that was invovled in kidnapping them? But yes, the point your brought up was the whole reason why it was so interesting, imo, better then some other horrors that are out at the moment.

*koga23* · Sep 28, 2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by _gwenibe_

^true, but one could argue that he is indirectly involved. But even so, isn't he the one that puts them in those strange things in the first place? ( again, I've only ever seen the second one). wasn't he the one that was invovled in kidnapping them? But yes, the point your brought up was the whole reason why it was so interesting, imo, better then some other horrors that are out at the moment.

Well he is indirectly involved thats a given.He is the one that puts them in those things and sets up an elaborate way for them to kill them selfs but yet not laying a finger on them.Its all psychological make some one think there gonna die in a room ( from gas or some thing ) and make the people figure a way out of this by making them nearly kill them self or killing them selfs trying to survive.The guy is pretty genius in that psycho kinda way.

Yes it do agree it is one of the better ones out there.

*dark angel swordsman* · Sep 28, 2007, 07:36 PM

Whether he kills people, or they kill themselves, he's still watching it all and enjoying it. He's bad. I doubt many honest-to-good people would enjoy seeing people die in front of them. So, yeah, I'm going with he's evil.

[Please take not I don't actually see the films; not old enough]

*divine_punishment* · Sep 28, 2007, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cantsenditback

everyone seen the movie "saw" right?

is jigsaw really good or really bad, one one hand he is getting people to torture themself to teach them a lesson but on the other hand the people he torture does learn a valuable lesson to appericate their life if they do surive the so called game.

in my opinion i say he is kind of good teaching people a lesson, its just that it in a bad way that he teaches the lesson to people

what is your thoughts on jigsaw

He's a doll. Dolls = evil incarnate. Therefore, he is evil.

Dolls give me the shivers!

There are better ways to teach people life lessons than abducting them and torturing them. This isn't the bloody Inquisition!

syd · Sep 29, 2007, 12:01 AM

He is a bad person no matter if he gives a way out killing is killing. I mean do you really want some to come to your house to teach you a lesson by putting you in a satiation where you can die

*RayMe* · Sep 29, 2007, 02:55 AM

To me he is bad... he is trying to take what only god has control of... death... teach ppl the value of life by putting their life in danger? sheesh... u have no rights to take another life....very unfair... even u give him chances... thats still is a bad thing to me in my opinion...u cannot try to do things to another person like that...

Hassun · Sep 29, 2007, 03:09 AM

He's 100% bad. What a pretentious prick he is for taking out his own anger on people.
Serious God complex right there.
Also, moving to debate and discuss.

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HolderOfTheDarkChalice Tournaments Won: 1 King Of Darkness Join Date: May 2006 Location: someplace where the only light is the moon above Posts: 2,842 Thanks: 34 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts Credits: 5,730	Spoiler after saw 3 i would have to say he is bad because he took that little girl like he did and then died without saying anything of where she is. the games as he called them were pretty intresting the best one was in the 3rd where that girl was in the angel wings trap and her ribs were ripped apart that was evil lol. jigsaw was dieing and he saw life from a perspective no one else could he wanted people to apreciate life like he did but they died trying so that makes him bad in a good way if that makes since. __________________
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_gwenibe_ wtf mate? Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,167 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts Credits: 19,525	Re: jigsaw, is he good or bad Jigsaws is bad. He kills people. No matter what the reason (bar self-defence) isn't killing a person the wrong thing to do? Plus if their dead, did they really learn the lesson? So really Jigsaw is just as bad as the people he was 'teaching the lesson to' but, having only seen the second movie - it was pretty good! __________________
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_gwenibe_ wtf mate? Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,167 Thanks: 1 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts Credits: 19,525	Re: jigsaw, is he good or bad ^true, but one could argue that he is indirectly involved. But even so, isn't he the one that puts them in those strange things in the first place? ( again, I've only ever seen the second one). wasn't he the one that was invovled in kidnapping them? But yes, the point your brought up was the whole reason why it was so interesting, imo, better then some other horrors that are out at the moment. __________________
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dark angel swordsman God of Destruction Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,839 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Credits: 13,361	Re: jigsaw, is he good or bad Whether he kills people, or they kill themselves, he's still watching it all and enjoying it. He's bad. I doubt many honest-to-good people would enjoy seeing people die in front of them. So, yeah, I'm going with he's evil. [Please take not I don't actually see the films; not old enough] __________________ If you're lucky, I may give you a tiny sliver of my godliness.
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syd Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 241 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 846	Re: jigsaw, is he good or bad He is a bad person no matter if he gives a way out killing is killing. I mean do you really want some to come to your house to teach you a lesson by putting you in a satiation where you can die __________________
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