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Old Oct 31, 2006, 11:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering...

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Grumble Grumble Grumble

But vegata's point is still valid... Which does bring up another related topic of philosophy...

1. Do you believe in a Ultimate Good and a Ultimate Evil

Or

2. The concepts of Good and Bad are relative. You can't recognize something is good unless you can compare it to something that is bad, and make a decision on which is more desirable...

From your statement, it appears that you believe in #1, that something that is Good is always good, regardless of it's context. And something that is Bad, likewise, is always bad, even if it's used to accomplish Good ends...

simply put... what is good for you may not be good for me...vis versa
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Old Oct 31, 2006, 01:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering...

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simply put... what is good for you may not be good for me...vis versa
So, your a believer of #2, which then brings up the question, what is invalid about vegeta's statement???
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Actually if you want to get into the mindset of a suicide bomber, the people you are killing aren't innocent.
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Old Oct 31, 2006, 09:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

I don't think there's actually any good or bad deeds in life... Some people might think that doing that action is wrong but others might think it is right... It all depends on the valors that that person thinks is more important than orthers.
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Old Nov 01, 2006, 07:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering...

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So, your a believer of #2, which then brings up the question, what is invalid about vegeta's statement???
it's his interpretation not mind... a ying and yang philosophy i belief...
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Old Nov 04, 2006, 04:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

to me good and bad deed are only defined by society and their beliefs. for example u have ppl that kill sheeps infront of their store to applease the gods, and therefor making the killing a good deed. however from a diferent perspective ppl could see that as animal cruelty and therefor it would make it immoral and indecent which would make it a bad deed. and by saying this like LenMiyata said:
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The concepts of Good and Bad are relative. You can't recognize something is good unless you can compare it to something that is bad, and make a decision on which is more desirable
is similar to his idea that the concepts of good and bad are relative however only to the background, and beliefs of the individual. however making the decision on what is more desirable is something that i am unclear about. that is stealing from somebody is more desirable than to work as it requires less effort. or in more desirable in the belief of that individual?.
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Old Nov 04, 2006, 05:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

it depends on what deeds are in question. there is no difference between right or wrong unless you think there is. if oyu think that everything you do is the right thing, then how can anything you do be wrong? there is only different ways to view the situation, there isnt a right or wrong overall. for example, there is a guy that gets picked on. he has had enough and belts the shit out of the person picking on him. he thinks he did the right thing, but a priest reckons he did the wrong thing. who is right? neither. they both just have different views.
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

Hmm.dat is a tricky question.ppl who r consider "wicked" can do bad things for both good n bad reasons as well as the ppl that r considered"good".This can depend on the morals of the ppl as well as the beliefs n laws as well as choices.Something along the lines of wat dude101 says.
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Old Nov 08, 2006, 03:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

For me good and bad..it varies from person to person. its also like what is are the important things in our life and something about happiness that varies from person to person depending on their point of views and beliefs. there are things that u think is right but not to others and vice versa. i agreed w/ what dude101 said about the good and bad only defined by the society and culture. As for goodness and evil, all i can say is whatever gets ur attention will get u.

Its true that even a person w/ the purest intentions in life can end up doing the wrong things just for the sake of achievement or fullfillment, etc.
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Old Nov 08, 2006, 03:21 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I just think good deeds is what makes people happy ...and bad deeds are what make people sad ....
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

@Demonra: woow~ u said it in simpler way XD U got a point...
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Re: just wondering... (Good and Bad deeds in life)

There is no Good and no Bad, There is God.(Sorry but I'm about to put some religion into this.)

I belive that God made both Good and Evil deeds. The question is why?
Mabe it's like Ying-Yang. There is as much Good as Evil, but unfortunitely some of us just got more of the Evil than others.
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