Kinesis - Page 11

Meji Imaru · Aug 17, 2006, 03:19 PM

Heres some of the info I got on the subject, mainly opinins but, information on the alchemy yeilding topic

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Originally Posted by UnAdept

Because there are no telekinetics, not in the way you describe it. Every person on this forum, I suspect, obsessively scans alternative news sources and their personal lives for any hint of the supernatural, and if you'll scan those same news sources, as well as the threads here, you'll find that nothing on the level of magnitude that you report is supported.

If telekinesis is possible, it is rare and subtle, certainly to the extent where "average" skill is meaningless, and where gathering 6 or so to melt a rock is impossible.

I suspect you know these people over the internet, or they live a long way away, so you have no way of confirming their results.

- UnAdept

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Originally Posted by UnAdept

Okay, I'll respond to this in bits.

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Your correct but, I trust them to the extent that there like family. I relise that telekinesis is rare and subtle but, sometimes if someone concentrates enough they can make a farely large blast enough to move something. An example is that average telekinetic is about a the range of movong a paperclip on a greased top.

I don't believe this to be the case; what makes someone a telekinetic, what differentiates them from the population at large, how frequently do they occur, why is it that there is no media on this phenomenon in any even quasi-legit publication?

I hate to be elitist, but the supernatural is a lifelong obsession of mine, and I have grave doubts that something so obvious as somebody moving matter by thinking hard would have missed my observations- even subtle and highly specified uses of spiritual power are far from immediately evident, such as psychic surgery and the like.

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However Molecules are suspended in air especially oxygen and hydrogen so, not only is it lighter it also has less friction to keep it in place. Now assuming someone has the energy nessicary for such a precedure they could easily move enough oxygen and hydrogen which will form int water, with in the rock and ultimatly softening it up and creating mush. Chances are its not a big rouck at all and merely a pebble at that.

Even before we get to the telekinesis, I question that somehow melding rock and water would create mush. Frankly, I don't think chemistry works that way. That sounds a lot more like the claims put forth by traditional alchemists, who believed all matter was made up of 5 elements.

I'm a fan of anime myself, but this isn't Full Metal Alchemist, this isn't DragonBall Z and this isn't Witch Hunter Robin... Kewl Powerz only happen on television. I don't want to be insulting or dismissive to you, but I suspect your rather young; still in highschool? I remember being in that place, where I was sure I'd be something amazing, sooner or later. In time, reality catches up with you, I'm sorry to say. I haven't quite lost hope yet, though it was a long road from there to here, and it wasn't anywhere near as flashy, glorious and heroic as the animes would have us believe.

-UnAdept

mellow maromi · Aug 17, 2006, 03:20 PM

False anyone can do telekinesis, it takes training, proactice, will power, beliefe, but anyone can do it. Just to a small extent. Like i said it has to do with electromagnetic waves, and static electricity produced within the brain and sent to the nerves in the hands.

Meji Imaru · Aug 17, 2006, 03:20 PM

Hold on scratch this post I accidentally double posted sorry

*fayt lingod* · Aug 18, 2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mellow maromi

False anyone can do telekinesis, it takes training, proactice, will power, beliefe, but anyone can do it. Just to a small extent. Like i said it has to do with electromagnetic waves, and static electricity produced within the brain and sent to the nerves in the hands.

electromagnetic waves? now your going into science fiction. electromagnetic won't do jack to water, or especially pure dirt.

Kai_Blackwolf · Aug 18, 2006, 07:11 AM

i think its real. you just have to believe in yourself and not try too hard. im not really sure though. i have had moments where ive thought i hade mind powers, but im not sure.

*fayt lingod* · Aug 18, 2006, 07:18 AM

it was probably a trick of your head, you have to have the inborn talent. mellow said that any1 can, well that is not entirely true.

any1 can if under enormous stress.

mellow maromi · Aug 18, 2006, 08:59 AM

Not nessicarily. Stress can deplete the amount of work your brain is doing, it makes u use a lower percentage of your mind. I dont see how less memory will help u do tk. Im not talking about water, im talking about telekinesis. Electromagnetic waves and magnetic waves, can affect anything. Doesnt have to be metal if the wave is concentrated enough it will effect anything. if not electromagnetic waves, then static electricicity. Electricity flows from your brain to your hands. The movement of energy creates static electricity. The electricity builds up at a concentrated spot, then is released to your will and affects on an object. If not static or magnetic then what? What is so powerful it can move an object. Brain waves wont do it. Telekinesis is silent, so its not sound. Could it be heat? Heat rises and this rise can affect an object. Cold air takes rising airs place. The sudden movement of cold air can effect an object. Telekinesis can increase the vibrations in matter to create heat. If not heat than what could it be. Im running out of explanations.

Meji Imaru · Aug 18, 2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mellow maromi

Not nessicarily. Stress can deplete the amount of work your brain is doing, it makes u use a lower percentage of your mind. I dont see how less memory will help u do tk. Im not talking about water, im talking about telekinesis. Electromagnetic waves and magnetic waves, can affect anything. Doesnt have to be metal if the wave is concentrated enough it will effect anything. if not electromagnetic waves, then static electricicity. Electricity flows from your brain to your hands. The movement of energy creates static electricity. The electricity builds up at a concentrated spot, then is released to your will and affects on an object. If not static or magnetic then what? What is so powerful it can move an object. Brain waves wont do it. Telekinesis is silent, so its not sound. Could it be heat? Heat rises and this rise can affect an object. Cold air takes rising airs place. The sudden movement of cold air can effect an object. Telekinesis can increase the vibrations in matter to create heat. If not heat than what could it be. Im running out of explanations.

I agree with both of you however, mellow maromi was semi wrong in the sense that he said that anyone CAN do it. This is false by a technicality. Everyone is ABLE to do it they just cant remeber how. Its because your mind either thought it unessecary at your birth and trashed it, didnt have good skill with it anyway or you were simply dumbed down. Ive looked into reasons why and those were the most common that I saw. Also, incase anyone was wandering, people whom havent forgotton how to use it are named 'Indigo Children'. Your not an indigo child if you learn kinesis later on.

mellow maromi · Aug 18, 2006, 09:39 AM

Oh yeah! My aunt is psychic in a way where she can feel other peoples emotions and pain. Its called empathy. She also can astral project in her sleep. She wrote a book about indigo children. They are the next evolution of humankind, with the next energy level. Her sons an indigo child she says. She says he knows when the phones gonna ring and who it is, even though they have no caller id. She says the color of his aura is Indigo. He knows whos at the door with out looking out the window or anything, and other psychic powers as well. On the internet it says indigo children usually have adhd, add, and other symtoms. A lot of kids nowadays has add and adhd, more than there ever was. Meaning humans are slowly evolving.

N-adiE · Aug 18, 2006, 01:20 PM

****I really

dont believe in any of that.

*fayt lingod* · Aug 18, 2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mellow maromi

Not nessicarily. Stress can deplete the amount of work your brain is doing, it makes u use a lower percentage of your mind. I dont see how less memory will help u do tk. Im not talking about water, im talking about telekinesis. Electromagnetic waves and magnetic waves, can affect anything. Doesnt have to be metal if the wave is concentrated enough it will effect anything. if not electromagnetic waves, then static electricicity. Electricity flows from your brain to your hands. The movement of energy creates static electricity. The electricity builds up at a concentrated spot, then is released to your will and affects on an object. If not static or magnetic then what? What is so powerful it can move an object. Brain waves wont do it. Telekinesis is silent, so its not sound. Could it be heat? Heat rises and this rise can affect an object. Cold air takes rising airs place. The sudden movement of cold air can effect an object. Telekinesis can increase the vibrations in matter to create heat. If not heat than what could it be. Im running out of explanations.

hows this?

if it can be explained that easily it wouldn't be telekenisis, if static electricity does it why aren't i moving chairs around when i rub my feet on the carpet? if it's that simple then it just doesn't exist at all.

@ meji imaru~ "indigo children"? still stuck on your Aura Sight?

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mellow maromi AO Animator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 706 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Credits: 11,126	Re: Kinesis Not nessicarily. Stress can deplete the amount of work your brain is doing, it makes u use a lower percentage of your mind. I dont see how less memory will help u do tk. Im not talking about water, im talking about telekinesis. Electromagnetic waves and magnetic waves, can affect anything. Doesnt have to be metal if the wave is concentrated enough it will effect anything. if not electromagnetic waves, then static electricicity. Electricity flows from your brain to your hands. The movement of energy creates static electricity. The electricity builds up at a concentrated spot, then is released to your will and affects on an object. If not static or magnetic then what? What is so powerful it can move an object. Brain waves wont do it. Telekinesis is silent, so its not sound. Could it be heat? Heat rises and this rise can affect an object. Cold air takes rising airs place. The sudden movement of cold air can effect an object. Telekinesis can increase the vibrations in matter to create heat. If not heat than what could it be. Im running out of explanations. __________________
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mellow maromi AO Animator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 706 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Credits: 11,126	Re: Kinesis Oh yeah! My aunt is psychic in a way where she can feel other peoples emotions and pain. Its called empathy. She also can astral project in her sleep. She wrote a book about indigo children. They are the next evolution of humankind, with the next energy level. Her sons an indigo child she says. She says he knows when the phones gonna ring and who it is, even though they have no caller id. She says the color of his aura is Indigo. He knows whos at the door with out looking out the window or anything, and other psychic powers as well. On the internet it says indigo children usually have adhd, add, and other symtoms. A lot of kids nowadays has add and adhd, more than there ever was. Meaning humans are slowly evolving. __________________
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