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Old Sep 05, 2006, 07:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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last names in the ancient times?

Hi. Well , nowadays we have last names like smith , or payne or weird ones like weener.But what of back then. For example , we know Abraham ,and david and Salomon.... men from way back then and where are their last names?Do they even have a last name and if they do , then why do we not know about it?
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Old Sep 05, 2006, 07:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

Wikipedia has some nice info on surnames.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surnames

The easy explanation is this: They didn't exist back then! At least not in the same sense as today.

In those old times they usually used your ancestor to adress you in other ways than your first name. E.g. Son of David.
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Old Sep 05, 2006, 07:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

true unles you was wealthy then you were lord chris or lord someone because wealth. most poeple had last names that went with what there jobs were if they wern't rich like smith for example if they black smiths or people who worked with metal or repair that would be there last name . things have changed now though
your last name isn't given for status or the typ of job you had. today its more of
a "whats more popular" with everyone choice.
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Old Sep 05, 2006, 08:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

Seeing as there were fewer people in the world back then and they rarely left their hometown, people did not need surnames. When travel became more frequent and more people live, surnames became necessary to differentiate between one "John" and another (so to speak).
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

they might have had last names but they were probaly not used unless they were very important.
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

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In those old times they usually used your ancestor to adress you in other ways than your first name. E.g. Son of David.
That's true and in most of the arabian countries they still do. Take Osama bin Ladin for example, i'm just using this name because everyone knows it. Now you would think that the averge person would see that as a full name. While truthfully, Osama bin Ladin translates into "Osama son of Ladin"

Also, in feudal Japan instead of giving the lower classes actual names, they were known by what they did. Take "Ryoushi" for example. It's japanese for fisherman and would also be their name. While their partner may be named "Gyofu" which is japanese for fisher
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

thats it is true like i staed before your name is given depnding on status
but thats isnt true here in the us much it is more about favorite names and the like but everyone had a name depending on the stutus at the time
an example would be weaver that last anem was given to family that worked in the stitching buisness or shoemaker wich was given to familys that repaired or made shoes for everyone. but it isnt like that anymore
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

Aye that's true, but there are also clan names that change with the times. My last name could easily be traced back to the scottish clan of Birnie who actually took the name from the town that they lived in before they migrated to america.

To tell the truth, you could get your name from anywhere or anything
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

And then there was titles like Duke or Sqire and such like that
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

...people back then were wierdddddddd people id hate to be getting called Son of such and such all the time..
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Re: last names in the ancient times?

makes me wonder if thats where that SOB term came from becuase someone was tired of the son of such and such all the time. but its just me thinking but you do have to wonder though it came from some where. i thinkthe only country that still uses title's l like sir holder or duke holder of dooms alot or the like would be england
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