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Old Mar 29, 2008, 09:34 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

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And I've gotta say this, where's ur proof that they don' exist? Scientists r of the growin' consensus that "absense of proof isn' proof of absense." Jus' 'cause there is no "concrete" proof of the existense of somethin' doesn' mean that it doesn' exist
Then why is science so deterrent towards religion?

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This is 'cause there has been many occasions where science has said that somethin' didn' exist or was a myth, only ta prove themselves incorrect later on down the road.
I'm still not sure why scientists continue to be recognized as the be-all-end-all knowledge of the world. I've always been inclined to listen to a philosopher rather than a scientist about things concerning certain aspects of life.

Scientists will claim they're right because they use "logic" and the scientific method and what not, and yet year after year, they always end up switching sides on a certain issue, or realizing their theories are wrong.

Earth, Mars, Moon Have Different Origin, Study Says

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Until now most scientists had believed that the inner solar system bodies—Mercury, Venus, Earth, its moon, and Mars—had the same composition as primitive meteorites called chondrites.

Vinciane Debaille, of NASA's Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, and her colleagues published a paper in the November 22, 2007, issue of Nature that paints a different picture. Her team suggests that early Mars had an insulating atmosphere that kept the planet's interior warm, thereby sustaining a molten magma ocean up to 110 million years after the solar system's formation.

Richard Carlson, from the Carnegie Institution of Washington, says he hasn't given up on the idea that Earth could be harboring chondrite-like deposits close to its core.
We're trying to figure out if there's life on other planets, and yet we can't even figure out what the earth, mars, and moon are composed of. What a joke. They don't know anymore than anyone does.

Science can be a good thing, but to believe in it wholeheartedly is no different than to believe in the very religions it bashes. It requires some form of faith.
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Old Mar 29, 2008, 04:55 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

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Then why is science so deterrent towards religion?
I believe that u're forgettin' my "key" word, growin'. In other words, they r beginin' ta change their minds 'bout labelin' things as "certain."
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I'm still not sure why scientists continue to be recognized as the be-all-end-all knowledge of the world. I've always been inclined to listen to a philosopher rather than a scientist about things concerning certain aspects of life.
I listen ta philosophers alot as well, but I consider them as only part of the equations of life. I've always believed that one must look at all sides of an issue ta determine one's own truth.

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Scientists will claim they're right because they use "logic" and the scientific method and what not, and yet year after year, they always end up switching sides on a certain issue, or realizing their theories are wrong.

Earth, Mars, Moon Have Different Origin, Study Says
Logic is only one aspect ta life and many scientists r beginin' ta understand that. It doesn' mean that they r completely correct, but that also doesn' mean that one should completely discount their claims.



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Science can be a good thing, but to believe in it wholeheartedly is no different than to believe in the very religions it bashes. It requires some form of faith.
No one is, necessarily, believin' in science wholeheartedly; at least I'm not. Science is made by man and man is fallible, so would that not; in turn; make science fallible. Yet this doesn' mean that science is useless or shouldn' b believed. Sometimes scientists say somethin' that makes sense and the fact that the "chances" of our bein' alone in this universe r slim and none makes sense. Look at how vast space is and u tell me the chances of there bein' no other life forms out there.
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Old Mar 30, 2008, 11:09 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Science is made by man and man is fallible, so would that not; in turn; make science fallible. Yet this doesn' mean that science is useless or shouldn' b believed.
Ohhhhhh... the same argument some people use to try and discredit religion, nice. Unfortunatly you may not claim science to be infallible but there are plenty who do and DO take the attitude that an absence of proof is proof of absence.

Me? lol I just want to watch people go "eh" when I say "of course there is life on other planets. Where do you think the city of Enoch went?"
*waits to see if anyone gets it*
Ok, seriously, yes I think there is life on other planets but why would we think we are capable of finding them at our current tech level and why would they ever bother coming here? There is simply nothing to attract them to us and nothing that would be worth their time or expense to harvest from our system they couldn't find closer to home.
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Old Mar 31, 2008, 07:14 AM   #70 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

There are many reasons why we haven’t made "FISRT CONTACT" with another race. Be it the fact that we are not worth their time, or they simply can’t hear us... The list goes on and on and on. Now I for one don’t believe that science is infallible, in fact I know it makes many mistakes and thus has to constantly have to change its view. Just because I hear some scientist say this that and blah blah blah doesn’t mean I believe it whole heartedly because I know that there are possibly many more explanations and reason than just what ever some dude in a lab jacket has said. Now as for life out in the universe. I believe there is, because the odds are so great do to the fact that the universe is far too massive and huge to only have us in it. I am saying that from just a visual stand point with out science or anything else and that is my point I am trying to make here. Look at a snap shot of the universe which you can find any where by simply googling it. Look at the picture and tell us that there isn’t at least one form of life that could be living on one of those little specs of dust. And the significant of life other then our own is far reaching then for us to say so what. Think about it. We can learn their history, their civilization, their customs, their technology, their form of religion and beliefs. We could very well have a new trading partner if and when we have the ability for actual space travel. Wouldnt you want to know about them, or simply have your head in the ground and play out your life as it has no effect on you. Which in the end it will.

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Old Mar 31, 2008, 07:40 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

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Ohhhhhh... the same argument some people use to try and discredit religion, nice. Unfortunatly you may not claim science to be infallible but there are plenty who do and DO take the attitude that an absence of proof is proof of absence.
This is true of many scientists and ppl, but not all. Anythin' that has been made by man or has man's influence is gonna b fallible. Science has made many bold claims through out it's history, only ta prove themselves incorrect 'bout those claims later on. Ta me, this only "proves" that science is imperfect and one can never make the claim that it is. Science does, however, have it's uses and one can never discount it anymore than one could discount society, religion, government, etc.
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Me? lol I just want to watch people go "eh" when I say "of course there is life on other planets. Where do you think the city of Enoch went?"
*waits to see if anyone gets it*
LOL! I get it Arrianna, touche. Good one.


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Ok, seriously, yes I think there is life on other planets but why would we think we are capable of finding them at our current tech level and why would they ever bother coming here? There is simply nothing to attract them to us and nothing that would be worth their time or expense to harvest from our system they couldn't find closer to home.
This is, assumin', that they even have intelligence or technology that is even capable of exceedin' our own. We jus' simply don' know, but jus' 'cause we can' see, hear, touch, smell, and taste somethin' doesn' mean that it's not there. One can' see (at least wit the naked eye), hear, touch, smell, and taste air; but we know that it exists. So jus' 'cause one doesn' have proof of something's existence, doesn' mean that it doesn' exist. Ta those that believe that u must have proof in order for somethin' ta exist, I say, where's ur proof that it doesn'? Proof is a two-way street.
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Old Mar 31, 2008, 12:02 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

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The first part of that statement is rather bold.
Could you possibly give any proof to it to make it sound true?
I mean, just because you say or think so doesn't mean some (like myself) would believe it...
No i dont have any proof cause it happened when i was at skool. I don't expect ppl to believe me, all i have if my word of what i saw that day.
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Old Apr 01, 2008, 05:26 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Re: Life on Other Planets

Damn man, this thing still going? *Sigh* Well, this has turned into a debate after all. Interesting...

I agree with Joe Mage in a few points. Science is not perfect, since it's done by imperfect humans. They think things up, then rethink it later on. Some scientists proved light was just waves of energy, then some others piped up & proved it was particals, then it was proved energy, then particals again. Last I heard (a while back) they'd thought up some middle ground, that it was particals moving in waves or some garbage like that.

Also just because they're more than likely out there, doesn't entirely mean they're more advanced than us. I mean just look at the world around us. Sure, we have our huge cities with technology pouring out of every orifice, but don't forget there are still tribes of African Bushmen living the same way they have for centuries. That's quite some difference in tech levels. Who's to say alien life isn't still at tribe level, if they're even above single cell organisms. Then again, it is also possible they're already touring our neighbourhood, it's just we offer nothing of interest to them, or they don't think us just ready to have them land in Times Square, pop the hatch & say "hello, We're you friendly local alien life forms. Wanna be friends?". I wouldn't be surprised if such an approach would earn them a few guns aimed at them from some pretty scared people...

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there's life on other planets of other galaxies or so i'd like to think and believe i mean this huge place called outer space wasn't created empty just for nothing ,now was it?
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Sorry but there is no intelligent life on other planets. If there were they would have contacted us by now the same way we are trying to contact them. it just doesn't exist.
I think they have't contacted us simply because we're not a very advanced race . . . We're barely trying to get to mars while they've mastered spaceflight (UFOs) . . . I mean if I was them I would be like Look at those idiots. . .
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I think they have't contacted us simply because we're not a very advanced race . . . We're barely trying to get to mars while they've mastered spaceflight (UFOs) . . . I mean if I was them I would be like Look at those idiots. . .
How would you know? is there any sort of proof?
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Re: Life on Other Planets

Indeed Titan. A lot of scientists think that there just might be life on that moon even if it's only bacteria. And to those who think that their can't be life, think of this: we have found life in the most inhospitable of places here on Earth. To think that life couldn't exist in such a vast universe is paramount to arrogant.
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