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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
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    Currently, US Army regulations do not permit women to serve in front line combat duty. However, this distinction is a moot point, as in the time of war, (and has been demonstrated in the Iraq occupation), as there is nothing to prevent the enemy from attacking supply convoys, or staging commando raids behind the well defined front lines.

    The other thing to consider is that are the requirements absolutely essential for combat duty, or do they serve as a 'glass ceiling' to prevent women from advancing in rank for the limited Army officer leadership positions.
    I was more inclined to think the different military standards were physical in nature. As in endurance, physical strength, etc. As this is the area where women just can't compete with men.

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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    If those standards are for combat readiness reasons they should absolutely not be lowered and from what I have read they were based on just that. I have no problem with lower standard for support services as long as those services never go anywhere near the lines (as Len mentioned even supply caravans can be hit). However, in reverse I think that if a woman, one of "those rare gems" can meet the higher standards that men do there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed the same combat opportunities. Any chance we can get them all together in the same unit? Let the jihadist beware! We have m4l> 4m42()n5 on our side!

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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    If those standards are for combat readiness reasons they should absolutely not be lowered and from what I have read they were based on just that. I have no problem with lower standard for support services as long as those services never go anywhere near the lines (as Len mentioned even supply caravans can be hit). However, in reverse I think that if a woman, one of "those rare gems" can meet the higher standards that men do there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed the same combat opportunities. Any chance we can get them all together in the same unit? Let the jihadist beware! We have m4l> 4m42()n5 on our side!
    well that is true but it is also true that in the way of genetics (no offence to any females) that men do have a better stamina and things like that. So it is true that women should not have to do more.
    It is also true that the "standerds" of the human today is very... poor...
    It might be usefull to "lower the bar" as some might say but it is also true that some people should work harder than others to be prepared for war.
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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    Quote Originally Posted by basilisk888 View Post
    I might be usefull to "lower the bar" as some might say but it is also true that some people should work harder than others to be prepared for war.
    I agree that the best way is to work hard, if you cant do it because you don’t have the will power or physical endurance, regardless male or female then I say you don’t belong on the battle field, because if you cant make it through boot camp, so to speak, then what makes you think you will last in an actual combat situation.

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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    It really depends on the standards of each branch also. When I was talking to recruiters, the US Marine Corps seemed to have more of a strict standard in military standards for boot camp than the US Air Force, for males and females. To my understanding, (I could be wrong), if someone got of the service and went back in through a different branch, the only branch that did not have to go through boot camp again was the US Marines, if they had US Marine boot camp previously.
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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    Well men and women are very different even physically. The resistance of a man and the resistance of a woman is not the same. Women we are storng but... men... more often are stronger than us... plus we are talking about the militia... they are battleing not only to not get killed but also they are representing and "defending" their country. Whatever he or she is (soldier, marine or from the airforce) s/he has to be able to resist to be attacked... and the enemy is not going to contemplate if the soldier is being pushed to mre than his/her limit... so they have to be prepared... for anything.
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    Re: Lowering Military Standards- Fair or Unfair?

    Quote Originally Posted by lebasiara View Post
    Well men and women are very different even physically. The resistance of a man and the resistance of a woman is not the same. Women we are storng but... men... more often are stronger than us... plus we are talking about the militia... they are battleing not only to not get killed but also they are representing and "defending" their country. Whatever he or she is (soldier, marine or from the airforce) s/he has to be able to resist to be attacked... and the enemy is not going to contemplate if the soldier is being pushed to mre than his/her limit... so they have to be prepared... for anything.
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    true, true, true, true!!! THat post is so true! Well I agree with that well about 99%
    Also if they are not prepared and go into battle without the proper training they will not be sent home they will be sent out there and will most likely die! There is in some countries that children are better at useing a gun than some of the marine's and that is just scarry... They should not lower the "bar" but they mybe should raise it upp a little (maybe, that's upp to the militrary's)
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