Manslaughter Charges for Acidental Friendly Fire Incident? - Page 2

Hassun · Mar 17, 2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fayt lingod

Givin the circumstances he would probably be found guilty, but wouldn't get any harsh sentence. it would have to be one sadistic judge(or whatever) to give him any substantial prison time.

i am also sorry for your loss (you must be getting tired of hearing that)

Guilty? With the relationships and circumstances at hand I doubt it.

*PsiKnot* · Mar 20, 2007, 09:15 AM

Actually Hassun, Fayt is probably right. The guy is guilty of shooting his friend by negligence, fact. The relationships and circumstances are whats going to keep his punishment light.

Hassun · Mar 20, 2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PsiKnot

Actually Hassun, Fayt is probably right. The guy is guilty of shooting his friend by negligence, fact. The relationships and circumstances are whats going to keep his punishment light.

"she was told Walsh and the other soldiers were packed tightly into the jeep when a gun was discharged."

They don't even say he actually pulled the trigger... Could have been an accidental discharge.

Chubz · Mar 20, 2007, 07:35 PM

Well that's the thing. So little information was given out by the Canadian military, that the only thing the news media knows happened was that the gun went off resulting in a death. They haven't given out much information at all.

But that they are preceeding with manslaughter charges leads me to believe that the gun was accidentally misfired due to negligence (safety not on, finger on trigger or something). Otherwise the incident wouldn't have been under wraps like it is. Incidents around military deaths are usually kept a bit quiet, but the military could easily just come out and say "this was an unavoidable freak accident, but no one is at fault," though they haven't. The alternative was that the event was avoidable, but due to negligence it resulted in a death.

But no matter how it occured, the event is still highly unfortunate and I'm sorry that it hits so close to home.

*PsiKnot* · Mar 21, 2007, 09:27 PM

There shouldn't have been a round in the chamber. It's that simple. Safety off, finger on the trigger, none of that matters if there isn't a bullet in the chamber. He failed to clear his weapon, neglegence.

OdysseanPromise · Mar 22, 2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PsiKnot

There shouldn't have been a round in the chamber. It's that simple. Safety off, finger on the trigger, none of that matters if there isn't a bullet in the chamber. He failed to clear his weapon, neglegence.

That depends on circumstance, really. If they were out on patrol, then as soon as they cleared the gates, all of them would have put a round in the chamber.

"Weapons status red," as we say in the Army.

I mean, if you get hit with an IED, are you going to take that extra second to pull back your charging handle when you should be engaging targets?

Given a fair trial, I think he'll be alright. There are plenty of things he has going for him, though muzzle accountability is always a big thing...

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PsiKnot The Bad Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 406 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 330	Re: Manslaughter Charges for Acidental Friendly Fire Incident? Actually Hassun, Fayt is probably right. The guy is guilty of shooting his friend by negligence, fact. The relationships and circumstances are whats going to keep his punishment light. __________________ Thinking is the leading cause of death among the stupid. Signature and Avatar made by Zackraa. Thanks!
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Chubz Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia Posts: 365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 329	Re: Manslaughter Charges for Acidental Friendly Fire Incident? Well that's the thing. So little information was given out by the Canadian military, that the only thing the news media knows happened was that the gun went off resulting in a death. They haven't given out much information at all. But that they are preceeding with manslaughter charges leads me to believe that the gun was accidentally misfired due to negligence (safety not on, finger on trigger or something). Otherwise the incident wouldn't have been under wraps like it is. Incidents around military deaths are usually kept a bit quiet, but the military could easily just come out and say "this was an unavoidable freak accident, but no one is at fault," though they haven't. The alternative was that the event was avoidable, but due to negligence it resulted in a death. But no matter how it occured, the event is still highly unfortunate and I'm sorry that it hits so close to home. __________________ Many Thanks To SasuraiHell For The Sig!
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PsiKnot The Bad Guy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 406 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 330	Re: Manslaughter Charges for Acidental Friendly Fire Incident? There shouldn't have been a round in the chamber. It's that simple. Safety off, finger on the trigger, none of that matters if there isn't a bullet in the chamber. He failed to clear his weapon, neglegence. __________________ Thinking is the leading cause of death among the stupid. Signature and Avatar made by Zackraa. Thanks!
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