Rook

Okay, so heres the story. A married couple from the UK are trying to have children, yet they are unsuccessfull. So they go to get themselves checked to find out why. turns out they were twins seperated at birth.

(heres a link to the story)
BBC NEWS | UK | Parted-at-birth twins 'married'

Now what i want to discuss was your personal opinions and views on this matter?

Should they seperate despite their genuine love for each other before the discovery of their siblingship?

Is it wrong to love your sibling? (or other relative?)

Should marriage be allowed between relatives?

What about the genetics? (in the making of a child)

How is incest viewed in our society?
Is it morally wrong?

Or is our world becoming more accepting of incest?

Those are a few of the questions you can discuss, or whatever your heart desires.


Personally, my view on the topic is this....

If you love a person, despite who they might be, (same sex, relative, other ethnicity, etc) i think you should go for it.

Becuase love doesn't discriminate.
Of course there might be barriers in these type of relationships, its just something these couples have to work through.
But thats what being a couple is right?

Thats my view.



(and just so everybody knows, the marriage between the twins was considered invalid being pended upon the circumstance that tyhey are blood relatives.)

Thank you.
Your opinions will be greatly appreaciated.


(oh, just wondering, if anyone would also like to discuss how this may be related to the story Oedipus, views on it and its meanings, and Antigone, the story of children after an incestous relationship:just to add a little icing on the cake...)

tsurara

Incest is barred for genetic reasons, not for moral ones. Close relatives bearing children limit gene pools, create more likely conditions for a child to inherit rare diseases or recessive traits, and ocaisionally results in genetic mutation/deformities. If you aren't planning on conceiving children naturally with someone who is a close blood relative, I doubt anyone could find a good reason NOT to support your decision to be with them anyway. And by GOOD reason, I mean a concrete scientific or moral reason.

"It gives me the willies" doesn't really count.

Chances are, we're all the product of quite a bit of incest somewhere down the line. ESPECIALLY if you're a believer of Judeo-Christian religions.

cantsenditback

Married a reletive. now that is just to damn creepy for me. I am serious. Yeah it was done in the past in royal families to keep their blood pure from everyday servents in the romans but its just to damn creepy. How is it right to marry a releative. It is wrong to marry you are related to. The dna is too similar so it is wrong

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tsurara

And how is it right to marry anyone? Last I checked, most marry for love: not out of obligation to our species (we can accomplish the latter with just sex). If anything: marriage ITSELF is what's unnatural.

And you haven't addressed the notion that many married couples never have children: either because they can not, don't want to, or have chosen to adopt. Moreover: should people with AIDS, hemophelia, hepatitis, diabetes, psoriasis and obesity be barred from marriage because they have very high possibilities of passing their conditions on to any offspring they may have?

Seems like a pretty big double-standard borne entirely out of our own tendency to cling to hateful stereotypes of people we've been taught are "abnormal".

Incest is discouraged for a good reason. That doesn't necesarily make it immoral.

Aleister Sithis

Honestly hearing that, just makes me laugh. You love someone, marry them, want tohave a child, and find out that you're related to them because you were twins seperated at birth. I mean honestly what are the chances? That's just hilarious.

"Uhh yeah...we've been trying to have kids...and it's just failing."

"Well...after your tests I think it'd be better if you DON'T have children."

"Why is that?"

"You two are actually twins...apparently seperated at birth."

"......That's.....wow.....crap."


Thats how I depict it. And as for them breaking up their union, to hell with that. They fell in love BEFORE they found this out, hell even if they did know before what's soo wrong ith it morally? Geneticall I can see why but hey, they don't need to spawn a kid. You can always adopt. So bleh on this, I find it funny.

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Lasura

I really don't think they should separate, if they don't find it odd to be together themselfes... It doesn't mean you can't love each other, it just means they SHOULD not have children... nothing good can come out of that... That is probably also why mother nature didn't allow them to have children

Marriadge should not be allowed between relatives, but between relatives who have really been relatives for all the time- that would be just moraly wrong I think, you should difference between family love and love love...

These two people never knew they are brother and sister, so I don't understand why they had to cancel their mariage. Of course it's not good for them to have children, because the child might have physical problems, but I don't see a problem otherways... You can't order love... Also- people have been mixing so much that it might be quite hard to find a person you are not somehow related to anyways. And we all still are human and generaly made in the same way (ya, as tsurara said )

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Miroku4444

Sorry but im going to have to disagree with you. It is very much indeed Immoral. In this society and many others its viewed that way. This comes form religious views, and form a medical standpoint. So being a person raised that way, it's personally wrong to me, and I find it sick. I mean if you cant find a mate that aint your Sister/Brother with 6-billion ppl you got problems.

If this happen to me it would end the relationship, and end with me in therapy. I Just don't believe in a relationship with your sibling in no shape or form.

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abby724

—Should the twins seperate despite their genuine love for each other before the discovery of their siblingship? If they still genuinely love each other, then I don't see why they shouldn't continue loving each other. Society may find it wrong, but I find it impossible to blame them for getting together when they knew nothing of their genetic ties.
—Is it wrong to love your relatives? To fall in love with your relative? To hold feelings for them? Nope, I don't believe it's wrong in anyway to think of your relatives in such a way. What I think is wrong is having children with them. The children, as stated before, may be born with recessive genetic defects, and I personally haven't heard of anyone wanting a child —or anything, for that matter— to be born with genetic defects.
—Should marriage be allowed between relatives? I think so, concerning couples who weren't aware of their blood, and those who are. Concerning couples who weren't aware of their genetic ties to each other, it doesn't sound fair to seperate them when they —and I'm assuming their marriage is out of— love each other. And, for those who already are aware of their genetic ties, I'm sure they're already aware of the risks of bearing children, and if they're responsible adults, they won't think of copulating and bearing children.
—How is incest viewed in our society? To tell you the truth, I have no idea... It's not a topic I've discussed with anyone else, actually. Don't want to give the wrong impression to my colleagues. So I also have no idea if our society is becoming more accepting towards it.

People against incest could be wrong, I could be wrong, but just because one believes in something doesn't automatically make it right.

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aceman67

What was at fault here was the British child services program that didn't inform the two siblings that they had a twin out there. When they got married they had no Idea that they were related in any way, and it wasn't until they went to a reproductive specialist did they find out.

Human beings have a natural "revulsion" when it comes to doing anything reproductive with someone they are related too, its in our instincts. But that only happens when they know that they are related.

When we don't know, its also in our nature to seek out someone who is similar to us mate with, and since a twin sibling (Or even those who are not twins) are very similar, there would be a natural attraction.

Incest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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