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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Martin Luther King Day

Wasn't there a point in time when we had today off because it was MLK Day?

Over the past decade or so, I've heard random people tell me that I shouldn't work on MLK Day. That it should be observed as any other national holiday. I've been told to not shop at stores owned by white people, to not buy anything from a white person or even SPEAK to white people on this day.

My question is, what is your opinion of this day? Do you think that MLK was justfied by having a "half-assed holiday" named after him, or do you think that having a day in remembrance is simply enough? Do you believe that Black people should segregate eachother for this ONE day?

I personally think that there are some Black people out there who take this holiday a bit too seriously. Yeah, I think it would be great to have today off! (In fact, 59wayz asked me this morning if I was even working, LOL) It would be cool to know that MLK has a holiday where everything just shuts down; like on Thanksgiving or Memorial Day. But that's not the case.

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Old Jan 21, 2008, 03:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Martin Luther King Day

i think that it should be like thanksgiving and all the other national holidays because it is in remembrance of the man that helped shape the way the US is today.

I think of this day as a reminder to what the US used to be like and what has become of it.

So yea its important. I say its like the 4th of July.
cause they are both independence days and MLKD is like the beginning of the blacks being able to become full citizens.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 06:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Martin Luther King Day

Concerning not associating with White people... I can see where these feelings are coming from, but I just want to point out that segregation of this kind is not what Martin Luther King Jr. was hoping for.

I think having a national holiday celebrated in honor of Martin Luther King Jr. is justifyable. Like P.R. Princes said, this man has shaped America and helped eliminate views that have been part of this country's history for Christ knows how long. If it weren't for him, I probably would've been looked down upon more than I am already. :laughs:

Really, it seems like no one except for really geeky historians truly knows what this man has done, all of his views, and what it was like back then. It seems most of the youth and the general population seem to be more concerned with whether they should go to Vegas or Palm Springs than actually think about the past and history... A shame, really... Making this a major nationalholiday could help knocking in some history into these people.
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Re: Martin Luther King Day

I think Martin Luther King day should be treated as any other important holiday, because it is the one day that kind of represent us black people and how he (MLK) helped white people accept us for who we are not and not to hate us because of our colour.

But i am against the not even talking to white people on that day cause thats just taking us back to how it used to be, which is something i definetly dont want and yes some black people take it a bit too seriously, but i think they take it seriously because they find MLK Day is really important to black people. So i wouldnt be against them when they go a bit over the edge on MLK day.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 11:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Martin Luther King Day

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Over the past decade or so, I've heard random people tell me that I shouldn't work on MLK Day. That it should be observed as any other national holiday. I've been told to not shop at stores owned by white people, to not buy anything from a white person or even SPEAK to white people on this day.
Wow, they sure are ****ing up his message he was trying to make. Way to go. This will only make us mad and further separate us.


This is a national holiday folks. All government places are closed, most schools get off here, and there is no mail. Maybe your state just doesn't honor the national Holiday?
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The United States federal government designates national holidays for federal employees only. State and local governments generally observe these holidays as well as many State Holidays. For a basic list of holidays as seen on a 2008 calendar:

Federal holidays are designated by Congress in Title V of the United States Code (5 U.S.C. § 6103).[1] If a holiday falls on a Saturday it is celebrated the preceding Friday; if a holiday falls on a Sunday it is celebrated the following Monday. Most, but not all states, and most, but not all private businesses also observe a Sunday holiday on the following Monday. It is less common, however, for a state or private business to observe a Saturday holiday on the preceding Friday. Some states and private businesses may observe it then, a few might observe it on Monday, and some might not observe the holiday at all in those years. In particular, banks that close on Saturdays do not observe a holiday when it falls on Saturday.

* January 1 New Year's Day
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Strictly speaking, the United States does not have national holidays (i.e. days where all employees in America receive a day free from work and all business is halted). The U.S. Federal government can only recognize national holidays that pertain to its own employees; it is at the discretion of each state or local jurisdiction to determine official holiday schedules. There are eleven such "Federal holidays" -- ten annual and one quadrennial holiday. The annual Federal holidays are widely observed by state and local governments; however, they may alter the dates of observance or add or subtract holidays according to local custom. Pursuant to the Uniform Holidays Bill of 1968 (taking effect in 1971), some official holidays are observed on a Monday, except for New Year's Day, Independence Day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. There are also U.S. state holidays particular to individual U.S. states.

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Concerning not associating with White people... I can see where these feelings are coming from, but I just want to point out that segregation of this kind is not what Martin Luther King Jr. was hoping for.

I think having a national holiday celebrated in honor of Martin Luther King Jr. is justifyable. Like P.R. Princes said, this man has shaped America and helped eliminate views that have been part of this country's history for Christ knows how long. If it weren't for him, I probably would've been looked down upon more than I am already. :laughs:

Really, it seems like no one except for really geeky historians truly knows what this man has done, all of his views, and what it was like back then. It seems most of the youth and the general population seem to be more concerned with whether they should go to Vegas or Palm Springs than actually think about the past and history... A shame, really... Making this a major nationalholiday could help knocking in some history into these people.
You're right! History is very important to our society and MLK helped shape the country in to what it is now. For a group of people to say, "Hey, we're gonna do the exact opposite" on a day for celebrating freedom is stupid. I think that historians should push the importance of the day in to the minds of the uneducated.
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Wow, they sure are ****ing up his message he was trying to make. Way to go. This will only make us mad and further separate us.


This is a national holiday folks. All government places are closed, most schools get off here, and there is no mail. Maybe your state just doesn't honor the national Holiday?
I guess not. I know that schools were shut down, but the mail ran and everyone I know--besides my mother who is a teacher--had to work. But I agree with you. MLK did not want us to put ourselves in a position where we had to be segregated. It's pointless to celebrate a holiday if you're not gonna honor the reason it was created.
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I guess not. I know that schools were shut down, but the mail ran and everyone I know--besides my mother who is a teacher--had to work. But I agree with you. MLK did not want us to put ourselves in a position where we had to be segregated. It's pointless to celebrate a holiday if you're not gonna honor the reason it was created.
I can't believe you got mail. All federal run places like the US post office should have been closed. Like i mentioned in that long post, only federal places are closed. All other businesses determine in they want to be closed are not, and seeing they dont want to lose that almighty dollar they choose to stay open. That is why all the ppl you know are working.
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I can't believe you got mail. All federal run places like the US post office should have been closed. Like i mentioned in that long post, only federal places are closed. All other businesses determine in they want to be closed are not, and seeing they dont want to lose that almighty dollar they choose to stay open. That is why all the ppl you know are working.
Yeah, I kinda figured it's on a federal level, but I'm still wondering why I got a bill in the mail yesterday.
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Re: Martin Luther King Day

Martin Luther King Day shouldnt be a holiday but a day of remebering the past. We should go to school people should go to work. But to me Martin Luther King Day is still segregating the African Amersican more. That should be stoped.
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Yeah, I kinda figured it's on a federal level, but I'm still wondering why I got a bill in the mail yesterday.
Ir was probably because someone else got your mail last week and was returning it to you.
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Martin Luther King Day shouldnt be a holiday but a day of remebering the past. We should go to school people should go to work. But to me Martin Luther King Day is still segregating the African Amersican more. That should be stoped.
Ya think so? I agree with the idea of MLK Day being responsible for the perpetual segregation of Black people in our country. I also agree that it should be a day to remember the past. But in this day and age, nobody particularly cares about the past. Which is very sad in my opinion. I don't think that people should go to school or work though. If army vets can have a holiday that involves taking the day off, why can't King, Jr.? It's only fair. if my little brother was on AO, he would probably say something along the lines of, "What? White people can have the day off on their holiday, but a ni**a's gotta go in to work on his? That's racism in a cup!!"
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Ir was probably because someone else got your mail last week and was returning it to you.
Maybe. Who knows. It's not like the world will end because I got mail on MLK Day. LOL.
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