Moving to debate and discuss, as this issue can get pretty heated.
And Ochi Gate is right. If they don't want a democracy, if they want a piss-ant defense force; let them be piss-ants! LOL. I hate to sound rash, but that's the way I feel.
**Quagmire... LOL. Giggity, giggity, giggity! I couldn't resist!**
Let me tell you what would happen if the US pulls out and doesn't fix the mess it caused: Thousands upon thousands of innocent people will die.
As for the Insurgents not fighting for anything, you couldn't be more utterly wrong if you tried. They're Muslim Extremists, most of them belonging to Al Quada, you know those guys who were responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans?
Yes, I do agree with you that something different has to be done, but pulling out now will only make things worse.
dude, thousands upon thousands of innocent lives are lost in Africa...roving armies rape and slaugther everything in there paths..the lvl of barberism is almost unparalled...but does anyone give a rats ass? No......tried to help in a few places...total fubar and we pulled out...do they want our help...well to a great extent, yes, many people are greatful for any help, but we only ever see the loons with the guns that hate us...a few thousand loons are not the voice of a nation...but they sure know how to spread distrust...yes they have been fighting since the dawn of time, yes they have hated christians and all other splinter religions since before the crusades...maybe we should just nuke them and start from scratch...naw...they will do that them selves given enough time...
um, is anyone else kinda worried about Iran? They are scared and cornered...we kinda have them surrounded in iraq and afganistan and they dont like it one bit...afraid that they might get kinda jumpy or trigger happy, and the us armed forces are kinda stretched thin at this time...
its just getting harded and harder to find time to turn the desert into safe solid Glass...
You don't know that. And even if what you said is true. Even more will die if the war continues.
I'm going to call those people freedom fighters since I'm arguing against you and you want to demean them so much. If you think most of the freedom fighters in Iraq come from someplace else you're delusional. The Iraqis are fighting against people who have invaded their homeland. The future of their love ones depends on them protecting their homeland. And they won't stop fighting until that's done.
I swear to god only army guys or army brats talk like this. This guy's from Canada so I don't know whats up.