sangogirl

well the way she expressed herself wasn't the best way to. She has a little bit of a point when she says that they should get a job and be 'stronger' but i think that they should be stronger for thier kids. I mean they probably have it worse. She also has to see the fact that the wives are living with the fear that any one of these days their loved one could die. And not knowing what day of if they will die at all.

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zeroenix

lol. Youre saying that a soldier dying in combat shouldnt be a surprise. Lets see how you feel when your best friend, girlfriend, or sibling joins the military and dies in combat.

But first of all. Lets not get too over the top with this. Not all people join the military to server their country. Some join because they dont know what else to do. But even understanding that there is a war, doesnt mean that a military wife should teach her children that their daddy is probably going to die and they will have to learn to live without them.

Just so you know, I am in the army. I have been for 2 years now and still have 4 left. I have already been to iraq once(In fact, i joined AO while in Iraq), and am happy to be back. And i understand that sometimes military wifes can over exagerate. And thats wrong. But so is a wife of a rich business owner who tries to act like she is better than everybody else. And by going on your theory, if i was to start a job at a factory that say, made cars, then my wife should accept and teach my kids that i could be killed by a car falling off the assembly line? Or a fire? As someone said, you can die in any job, or not on the job at all. I guess then everybody should just accept that they are going to die sooner or later and stop bitching. Right?

It all comes down to the fact that yes, we in the military are expected to have to kill. But no one plans on dying. And they shouldnt have to. I dont care what anyone says. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Good saying. But also here is another one. Shit happens. So then i guess no one should complain if anyone dies, in any situation. Im not argueing for the military wives, just that if you believe that they should accept these facts stated in all our posts, then so should everybody.

But my opinion means nothing. Im basicly a dead man walking right? Blah Blah Blah.

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Shodokan

Not to get too off subject. But my brother is a cop. If he gets shot and dies I would feel the same way if he got killed in the military. He died doing his job or duty. I don't really consider police officers non combatants.

Yes she should. She should teach herself and her children the realities of the situation

That is an incomparable situation. One is part of the armed forces the other isn't.

There is a difference between civilians and soldiers. Dying in Iraq or some other war isn't really a random act and doesn't deserve the same level of sympathy.

I guess so.

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lol. How does that not deserve the same sympathy? YOUR LOVED ONE IS DEAD. THEY ARE NEVER COMING BACK. EVER. So in truth, yes. It does deserve the same, the exact same, no more no less.

And i realize that my situation was one of military and another random situation. But both of them can die. Its not how. Its that theyre dead. Do you understand what that means. You say your brother is a cop Good for him. Im sure you are proud of him. And dont lie that you arent. But you would be very hurt if he was to die in the, ahem, "line of duty" And im not saying that he doesnt deserve any sympathy, but if someone told you to stop feeling sorry for yourself, your brother was a cop. Too bad. I know you would be offended just a little. Because, though i do not know him, i doubt he wakes up every day thinking, well im probably going to die today. Oh well.

And your right. She should accept the fact that her husband could die. But children are a different story. Can i ask you a question? How many children do you have. I have none...

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Has a Military dependent, as a son of a soldier who has gone over seas, not once, but 3 times, who has had his father miss 2 birthdays, one christmas, and 3 wedding anniversaries. who's father has seen things that he still doesn't talk about, even though its been well over a decade since he got home, and as someone who has seen friends go over to Afghanistan and not come home (Corporal Paul Davis died March 2 2006, Father of two, Corporal Francisco Gomez died July 22 2006, served with my father for 22 years), I find this disrespectful and insulting.

Being part of a military family is different from being part of a civilian family. The two are not the same, its a simple as that.

We're asked to sacrifice so much, and all we get is disrespect from those who dislike violence and war, and the half felt sympathies for when our loved ones are killed.

Military families may not put their lives on the line like the member of their family does, but we do make sacrifices. Just ask the families of these men and women: Canadian Forces casualties in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That person who made that phone call is a cold heartless whelp who shouldn't even have the right to voice her opinion, but unfortunately, men and women of the armed forces died to protect that right, so I have to let her.

I am proud to be part of a military family. I support my countries military, and those of other nations.





That is quite possibly the most idiotic and incorrect statement I have read in this thread.

The job of a soldier is not to die, but to protect the freedoms we enjoy in our daily lives, which includes the right to frees speech, which took advantage of when you made that statement. While yes, by doing that, they put their lives on the line and sometimes their duty takes their lives.

THERE IS NOTHING. NOTHING. In this world that can prepare you for the loss of a loved one.

But you wouldn't be saying that if you had the experiences I had.

Back in 1993, my father was doing his second tour in Bosnia with a UN peacekeeping force. My father was (He is now retired, after serving 25 years) a Signalman (Digital communications). He phoned me on my birthday, only to have the transmission suddenly cut off. I was six and I didn't know what was going on, and was left in tears. It wasn't until years later, when I was 18 that my dad told me that the satellite dish which allowed him to contact me, which was no more then 30 feet from the tent he was in, was hit by a rocket propelled grenade.

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Nympho

I sense a hint of envy. She barely touched the subject if there really is one. I feel that she was envious of how much benefits they get and wishes she could have a life like it. I think she went over board, and maybe was hurt by someone who was a military wife. And lashed out b/s. Yeah they get good benefits, only because a good percentage of them will die in the line of duty, than say someone who works at Starbucks.

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Sashacat

That is quite possibly the most idiotic and incorrect statement I have read in this thread.

The job of a soldier is not to die, but to protect the freedoms we enjoy in our daily lives, which includes the right to frees speech, which took advantage of when you made that statement. While yes, by doing that, they put their lives on the line and sometimes their duty takes their lives.

THERE IS NOTHING. NOTHING. In this world that can prepare you for the loss of a loved one.

But you wouldn't be saying that if you had the experiences I had.

I completely AGREE with you. Who can accept in their minds...that a living healthy being they love is to be dead or will be dead? I just could not do that. I have relatives in the army and I could not sit there and say I love you to them while thinking all the while in my head, ope..they're pretty much dead. That's sick. Everyone must have hope and hope that they come back alive and BELIEVE they're coming back alive. Without that type of support, our troups are pretty much f*ed. They need to hear someone say, "I can't wait until you get home/to see you again."

Shodokan

They purposoley put their lives on the line. So if/when they end up dead it no one should be shock. I already explained to you the difference between the death of a soldier and the average person.

Well maybe a little. But they would still be right.

She should explain the situation as soon as the children is capable of understanding. I don't have kids.

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Grumble Grumble Grumble
Then again, how is this any different then driving a car. Every time you drive, your literally placing your life in the hands of a driver. No one (except the suicidal) intends to die when they drive a car, but despite this, people die all the time in car accidents....

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Shodokan

WRONG!

I had no idea soldiers invented the internet and protected us from nations that posed no real threat. What you just said is considered by me and very many other people Military Propaganda. These "freedoms" you're talking about, aren't they supposed to fight and die to protect them? You're only proving my point. Their life is to put their life on the line. So when you put your life on the line even for "freedom" it's not a big shocker if you get killed.


Yeah there is. I know people who are and were fully prepared for their children to die.

If you were aware enough at that age to begin crying like that. You're mother should have explained to you your father's job if she didn't already do that back then.

This car comparison is very crummy. There is a difference between an accident and going around killing or helping to kill people. Unless you're doing drive bys in your car you shouldn't expect to be killed.

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Sputz

I despise the military, but I'll support my fiance. He's going to Iraq(possibly) by the end of this year.

I dont like the military but I understand what we "military wives" go through. Its tough, so to have someone blame us for whining that our husband was taken from us to serve in some crummy war, thats not right. Lets take their husbands away and see how they feel!

I get so frustrated with the military because I think its one big scam. BUT I will never stop supporting the troops. Afterall, they aren't deciding what to do, Bush is!