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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

    I sense a hint of envy. She barely touched the subject if there really is one. I feel that she was envious of how much benefits they get and wishes she could have a life like it. I think she went over board, and maybe was hurt by someone who was a military wife. And lashed out b/s. Yeah they get good benefits, only because a good percentage of them will die in the line of duty, than say someone who works at Starbucks.

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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

    That is quite possibly the most idiotic and incorrect statement I have read in this thread.

    The job of a soldier is not to die, but to protect the freedoms we enjoy in our daily lives, which includes the right to frees speech, which took advantage of when you made that statement. While yes, by doing that, they put their lives on the line and sometimes their duty takes their lives.

    THERE IS NOTHING. NOTHING. In this world that can prepare you for the loss of a loved one.

    But you wouldn't be saying that if you had the experiences I had.

    I completely AGREE with you. Who can accept in their minds...that a living healthy being they love is to be dead or will be dead? I just could not do that. I have relatives in the army and I could not sit there and say I love you to them while thinking all the while in my head, ope..they're pretty much dead. That's sick. Everyone must have hope and hope that they come back alive and BELIEVE they're coming back alive. Without that type of support, our troups are pretty much f*ed. They need to hear someone say, "I can't wait until you get home/to see you again."

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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

    lol. How does that not deserve the same sympathy? YOUR LOVED ONE IS DEAD. THEY ARE NEVER COMING BACK. EVER. So in truth, yes. It does deserve the same, the exact same, no more no less.
    They purposoley put their lives on the line. So if/when they end up dead it no one should be shock. I already explained to you the difference between the death of a soldier and the average person.

    And i realize that my situation was one of military and another random situation. But both of them can die. Its not how. Its that theyre dead. Do you understand what that means. You say your brother is a cop Good for him. Im sure you are proud of him. And dont lie that you arent. But you would be very hurt if he was to die in the, ahem, "line of duty" And im not saying that he doesnt deserve any sympathy, but if someone told you to stop feeling sorry for yourself, your brother was a cop. Too bad. I know you would be offended just a little. Because, though i do not know him, i doubt he wakes up every day thinking, well im probably going to die today. Oh well.
    Well maybe a little. But they would still be right.

    And your right. She should accept the fact that her husband could die. But children are a different story. Can i ask you a question? How many children do you have. I have none...
    She should explain the situation as soon as the children is capable of understanding. I don't have kids.
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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    They purposoley put their lives on the line. So if/when they end up dead it no one should be shock. I already explained to you the difference between the death of a soldier and the average person....
    Then again, how is this any different then driving a car. Every time you drive, your literally placing your life in the hands of a driver. No one (except the suicidal) intends to die when they drive a car, but despite this, people die all the time in car accidents....
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    That is quite possibly the most idiotic and incorrect statement I have read in this thread.

    The job of a soldier is not to die, but to protect the freedoms we enjoy in our daily lives, which includes the right to frees speech, which took advantage of when you made that statement. While yes, by doing that, they put their lives on the line and sometimes their duty takes their lives.
    WRONG!

    I had no idea soldiers invented the internet and protected us from nations that posed no real threat. What you just said is considered by me and very many other people Military Propaganda. These "freedoms" you're talking about, aren't they supposed to fight and die to protect them? You're only proving my point. Their life is to put their life on the line. So when you put your life on the line even for "freedom" it's not a big shocker if you get killed.


    THERE IS NOTHING. NOTHING. In this world that can prepare you for the loss of a loved one.
    Yeah there is. I know people who are and were fully prepared for their children to die.

    But you wouldn't be saying that if you had the experiences I had.

    Back in 1993, my father was doing his second tour in Bosnia with a UN peacekeeping force. My father was (He is now retired, after serving 25 years) a Signalman (Digital communications). He phoned me on my birthday, only to have the transmission suddenly cut off. I was six and I didn't know what was going on, and was left in tears. It wasn't until years later, when I was 18 that my dad told me that the satellite dish which allowed him to contact me, which was no more then 30 feet from the tent he was in, was hit by a rocket propelled grenade.
    If you were aware enough at that age to begin crying like that. You're mother should have explained to you your father's job if she didn't already do that back then.

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    Then again, how is this any different then driving a car. Every time you drive, your literally placing your life in the hands of a driver. No one (except the suicidal) intends to die when they drive a car, but despite this, people die all the time in car accidents....
    This car comparison is very crummy. There is a difference between an accident and going around killing or helping to kill people. Unless you're doing drive bys in your car you shouldn't expect to be killed.
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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

    I despise the military, but I'll support my fiance. He's going to Iraq(possibly) by the end of this year.

    I dont like the military but I understand what we "military wives" go through. Its tough, so to have someone blame us for whining that our husband was taken from us to serve in some crummy war, thats not right. Lets take their husbands away and see how they feel!

    I get so frustrated with the military because I think its one big scam. BUT I will never stop supporting the troops. Afterall, they aren't deciding what to do, Bush is!

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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shodokan View Post
    ...This car comparison is very crummy. There is a difference between an accident and going around killing or helping to kill people. Unless you're doing drive bys in your car you shouldn't expect to be killed.
    You seem to be operating under the mistaken belief that EVERYONE in the military are expected to kill people. The fact is, that the US Army has a very large tail, with over 80% of the positions in a combat theater are jobs were your not expected to shoot at people. (e.g. supply truck drivers, medical personal, technicians, mechanics, clerks, etc. etc.) So considering this, what makes the car comparison so crummy??? You position could also be applied to civilian police, fire, rescue teams and medical personal. The fact that they expose themselves to danger as a part of their job doesn't mean you can just expect them to die on the job...
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    Re: Military wives "fat/moochers/whores?"

    Shodokan, you take the internet for granted because you live in a country that does not control it, and actually allows for free speech.

    You go into a communist country Country like Cuba, China or Vietnam, that just isn't the case. They have government mandated internet censorship, and they control what you can and cannot do on the internet.

    If you want to read more on this particular subject, read this wiki entry (Internet censorship) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

    And I ask you this: Do you have, or have had any member of your family, in the armed forces who has served over seas?

    Because if not, then quite frankly, to me anyways, your opinions are moot and have about as much weight as a grain of salt, because you just don't know what our(Military families) lives are like.

    As for me crying when I was 6, I heard the explosion and screams before the line went dead.

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    You seem to be operating under the mistaken belief that EVERYONE in the military are expected to kill people. The fact is, that the US Army has a very large tail, with over 80% of the positions in a combat theater are jobs were your not expected to shoot at people. (e.g. supply truck drivers, medical personal, technicians, mechanics, clerks, etc. etc.) So considering this, what makes the car comparison so crummy??? You position could also be applied to civilian police, fire, rescue teams and medical personal. The fact that they expose themselves to danger as a part of their job doesn't mean you can just expect them to die on the job...
    Exactly right. My father was a Signal man, he delt with Digital communications and encryption, and set up and maintain the vital communication links that make it possible for our troops to do their jobs.

    Also, my fathers entire career was that of building nations, not killing people. To give you an idea of what my father has done, he assisted in the transition period for Germany when the Berlin wall fell, he was there, and has a rather sizeable chunk of the wall in display case on his mantel.

    And as I've already mentioned, He was a Peace keeper during the Bosnia and Herzegovina civil war back in the 90's.
    My most treasured photo of my father is of him playing with refugee children on a playground structure that his unit built while they were there. The most sad thing about it is, the children had never seen a playground in their lives, and so I've got this photo of Grown soldiers, teaching children how to play.

    During the late 90's and early 2000, My father was a Military Air Traffic controller for the entirety of the eastern seaboard of Canada up until the New Brunswick boarder with Quebec. He directed search and rescue operations, and was on duty when Swiss-air Flight 111 crashed just off Peggy's Cove.

    During 9/11, my father was stationed in Winnipeg, and due to his experience, they called him (Along with other members of his unit, the 731 Signal Sqdn.) in to take over Civilian air traffic control at Winnipeg International Airport. I sat on my schools front field and watched as Jet-liner after Jet-liner passed over head with members of the 17th Wing airgroup piloting CF-188A Hornets flying escort.
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