Moral and their begginings

legacy2Bwritten · Jul 31, 2006, 04:04 PM

Well I just wanted to comment on the idea of whats moral and whats not?
First lets start by deffining what morral is, for me for example is just what is right and wrong. Dramatic but in a sense a effective persuation, stappling a baby to the wall, bad( this the example my sophmore teacher gave us, not me I did not come up with it!) So we all have morals but where do we get them from. In a sense to bring in the 9/11 tragedy was what the Iraq(i) people thought in their sense moral, for what reasons I don't know but u get the point. Elavorate on that concept.

Claudius Rousseau · Jul 31, 2006, 04:23 PM

Morals define what is acceptable and unacceptable to a particular group of people/person.
What's acceptable to you may not be acceptable to me.

The reason why i used the word acceptable rather than good/bad is because nothing is inherently good/bad. It is the acceptability of things that defines one from the other as good/bad.

The diversity of our definition of good/bad is contingent upon so many factors (i.e. religion, culture, family beliefs/traditions, personal beliefs, etc.)

It is us where morals came from, and morals continually evolve as man's belief and rationale of things evolve.

Admiral_Dread · Jul 31, 2006, 04:37 PM

globalpolicy.org - analysis - 9/11: Causes, Repercussions and Consequences

Erm... Well no... The Iraqi people had NOTHING at all to do with 9/11. That was the Taliban, who are in Afghanistan. We went after Saddam because we thought (wrongly) that had weapons of mass destruction capable of being used on us and that they had (also incorrect) ties with the Taliban.

Morality is based off your cultural upbringing and how you apply that to your experience that make what is right and what is wrong. Anything can be "right" or "wrong" if you have enough people to believe it so. The only way one could get a definite answer to what is right and wrong, is if you somehow had access to every single person's memory's and experiences on the planet. An unlikely event if any...

*HolderOfTheDarkChalice* · Jul 31, 2006, 05:34 PM

morals are a perodox becuase they can be learned in
manyway and what some think of as bad moral's spanking
a chile for example could be seen as good morals by somone else
its just how you percive it

Sincere · Jul 31, 2006, 06:13 PM

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. You learn morals from whoever you listen to the opinions of. If you respect their opinion, then you learn from them. If you don't, then you really don't care and therefore, you ignore what they say is right or wrong.

Chubz · Jul 31, 2006, 08:21 PM

Pretty much morality would stem from the simple instinct to live. Humans are social animals, and live close to together. Back in the prehistoric days, everyone worked for the survival of the group. If one of the group started stapling babies to walls, he would destroy the groups chance of survival. If he started eating all the food rather than sharing, the group (including him) would die.

It would have started out as just the instinctual will to live, and as society has progressed more moral issues have arisen, but it still retains the notion of 'what's best for the group.'

*fayt lingod* · Aug 04, 2006, 07:54 AM

chubz has something goin there, i agree wit him.

Itachi-Uchiha · Aug 09, 2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fayt lingod

chubz has something goin there, i agree wit him.

I also agree with chubz......

tupacs_wifey · Aug 10, 2006, 02:31 AM

the best morale ever is the one you learned the hard way

Howl_of_Fenrir · Aug 10, 2006, 06:01 AM

I think you get your moral from the person that you really respect.

SousukeSagara · Aug 11, 2006, 05:52 AM

The more important character of a soldier is his morality...
No more explanations...

Jul 31, 2006, 04:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
legacy2Bwritten Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lost in solitude... Nothing but darkness Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 210	Moral and their begginings Well I just wanted to comment on the idea of whats moral and whats not? First lets start by deffining what morral is, for me for example is just what is right and wrong. Dramatic but in a sense a effective persuation, stappling a baby to the wall, bad( this the example my sophmore teacher gave us, not me I did not come up with it!) So we all have morals but where do we get them from. In a sense to bring in the 9/11 tragedy was what the Iraq(i) people thought in their sense moral, for what reasons I don't know but u get the point. Elavorate on that concept. __________________ http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...n-ForKaoru.jpg http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...e-5dfedc19734a The Legend forgoten...
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Claudius Rousseau Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 110	Re: Moral and their begginings Morals define what is acceptable and unacceptable to a particular group of people/person. What's acceptable to you may not be acceptable to me. The reason why i used the word acceptable rather than good/bad is because nothing is inherently good/bad. It is the acceptability of things that defines one from the other as good/bad. The diversity of our definition of good/bad is contingent upon so many factors (i.e. religion, culture, family beliefs/traditions, personal beliefs, etc.) It is us where morals came from, and morals continually evolve as man's belief and rationale of things evolve.
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Admiral_Dread Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 152	Re: Moral and their begginings globalpolicy.org - analysis - 9/11: Causes, Repercussions and Consequences Erm... Well no... The Iraqi people had NOTHING at all to do with 9/11. That was the Taliban, who are in Afghanistan. We went after Saddam because we thought (wrongly) that had weapons of mass destruction capable of being used on us and that they had (also incorrect) ties with the Taliban. Morality is based off your cultural upbringing and how you apply that to your experience that make what is right and what is wrong. Anything can be "right" or "wrong" if you have enough people to believe it so. The only way one could get a definite answer to what is right and wrong, is if you somehow had access to every single person's memory's and experiences on the planet. An unlikely event if any... __________________ Like one that on a lonesome road doth walk in fear and dread. Last edited by Admiral_Dread; Jul 31, 2006 at 04:58 PM. Reason: -ing failure
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Sincere Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Justin's heart Posts: 307 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 364	Re: Moral and their begginings Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. You learn morals from whoever you listen to the opinions of. If you respect their opinion, then you learn from them. If you don't, then you really don't care and therefore, you ignore what they say is right or wrong. __________________ $C:\Documents and Settings\Julia\My Documents\My Pictures\Siggy.jpg$ A white rose no longer alone I know who's heart it is to represent I didn't pick it, but i let it grow For he's the one that's heaven sent. : I love you, my White Rose.: The Poop Forums
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Chubz Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, British Columbia Posts: 365 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 329	Re: Moral and their begginings Pretty much morality would stem from the simple instinct to live. Humans are social animals, and live close to together. Back in the prehistoric days, everyone worked for the survival of the group. If one of the group started stapling babies to walls, he would destroy the groups chance of survival. If he started eating all the food rather than sharing, the group (including him) would die. It would have started out as just the instinctual will to live, and as society has progressed more moral issues have arisen, but it still retains the notion of 'what's best for the group.' __________________ Many Thanks To SasuraiHell For The Sig!
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Howl_of_Fenrir Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Near Fenrir Posts: 120 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 210	Re: Moral and their begginings I think you get your moral from the person that you really respect. __________________ I love you,so please don't love me. "Maximum signature main image size = 500*115 pixels"
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SousukeSagara Mercenary Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: War zones around the globe... Posts: 528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Credits: 901	Re: Moral and their begginings The more important character of a soldier is his morality... No more explanations... __________________
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