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    Nuclear Disarmament

    What is there in the world to fear?

    On the very top of the list are things man cannot control; global disaster, raging pandemics, alien invasion... from there of course we walk to far down the hallways of paranoia to hold a logical debate. There's nothing wrong with fearing those things we cannot influence, it's healty to be connected with that vulnerable side but what can we say about the situations and threats we do have power over?

    A weapon of mass destruction is a piece of science that has the ability to massively destroy the surface of Earth, the people of Earth, and the possible furture of Earth. Assuming nuclear fallout and the lingering radiation would not be so kind this time around.

    Is it really okay for a body of people to have these kinds of weapons?
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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    Quote Originally Posted by FLawEdmiNd View Post
    What is there in the world to fear?

    On the very top of the list are things man cannot control; global disaster, raging pandemics, alien invasion... from there of course we walk to far down the hallways of paranoia to hold a logical debate. There's nothing wrong with fearing those things we cannot influence, it's healty to be connected with that vulnerable side but what can we say about the situations and threats we do have power over?

    A weapon of mass destruction is a piece of science that has the ability to massively destroy the surface of Earth, the people of Earth, and the possible furture of Earth. Assuming nuclear fallout and the lingering radiation would not be so kind this time around.

    Is it really okay for a body of people to have these kinds of weapons?
    Go read about the Cold War and then you will see why their are still nukes in the world and why nobody will be willing to give them up, when you have things like MAD(when both sides destroy each other) involved which is why it will never happen. So to answer the ?, no, no one should have them but they do and their is nothing we can do about because when someone gives up, someone new will take their place and the cycle continues.

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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    It's not so much the case of paranoia, it's more like watching your back at all times. We never know when terrible things will go down, 9/11 happened with no signs of foreseeing it. But after about 6 years after the disaster took place we've learned that jihadists were having meetings at conference centers in Detroit about this very subject, declaring a holy war against "The infidel" being us, the Americans. In small South African and and Hispanic countries children as young as 8 are taught to kill and control. In some cases the ones brainwashing these children force them to kill their own parents to show how committed they are to their new violent way of life. Imagine how a soldier feels to kill a child, even though that child is firing at him, they probably realize that these kids could have had a much brighter future, but instead were taught to fight and kill at a young age. So we never know what evilness has in store for the next day, so we and other countries stay reading to press that nuke button because of what the world's become.

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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

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    The other issue with nuclear disarmament is that the very same technology used for making nuclear weapons is exactly the same technology used to make fuel rods for greenhouse gas free nuclear power plants. (Which also means that counties such as Germany, Japan, and Taiwan could become nuclear powers within 6 months of making the decision to do so...) So essentially, the Genie is already out of the bottle... Even if you were to destroy all current nuclear weapons, (an impossible task by itself), there's nothing that can be done to prevent new nuclear weapons from being made in the future...
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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    Maybe nuclear war is the future but why is it so hard for anyone to believe that we don't need massive firepower to be protected?

    I'm not attacking nuclear energy, in fact I would love to live in era where it is harnessed and used to human advantage. I would like to think that nuclear weapons are a byproduct of that vision though it seems I'm a bit misguided.

    Word of mouth is still a very powerful force, given the right circumstances I would hope the people would rise in their own best interest instead of letting politicians shot their guns. Old fashioned protesting man. There's nothing we can do Franco? Let me ask, who is the we you speak of.. has society become like that, where there is a definable we?

    Who are they then, that we are against? And why is there power over us so strong?

    I don't care. 9/11 has way to much publicity. It may be a fad for Canadians to feel ill towards Americans yet it feels so right, a little bit. The whole time 9/11 was consuming the world there were still starving children and crimes against humanity taking place like always. Which gets more air time on the tv? Those children who were hungry are dead now, but there's plenty more. Rumors of certain Americans working with the "Jihadists" allows me to care even less for the whole matter. Give me conclusive evidance and maybe views will change.

    Of course the regular people who didn't know a thing are exempt.

    If it's 100% impossible to wipeout nuclear arms then at a minimum there should be.. orthodox(?) restrictions in the use of them, and severe penalties against those who break those laws/rules/etc. It's hard to reconcile all the possibilities of nuclear warfare with the scarce benefits we see now.
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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    First we must define nuclear weapons. Because if the arguement on teh face of it is to get rid of all nuclear weapons the answer is no we should not. Submarines are all nuclear, and aircraft carriers are nuclear. For the most part they are better than there deisel counterparts from an environmental perspective anyways. Think about that.

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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    The reason why they are saying there is nothing we can do Flawed is just like what Len has said, we let the Geny out of the bottle, its already out there. Even if say all the nuclear war heads are removed and disapear, there are people still out there that WILL seak to create their own and use it to hang over any ones head who stands in their way. Now you say we can use a massive armed force instead, how ever a single nuclear device would decimate that large force with one big blast, expecily with the kind of yeild nuclear warheads have now a days, then there is the radioactive fallout. All be it it is very very very difficult to build a functioning nuclear warhead that works perfectly to reach its maximum devistation level, but they will find a way, and when they do they can push any one around with it.
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    Re: Nuclear Disarmament

    The is also the problem for the people who would really have an intention to use a nuclear bomb on lets say the U.S well the would have to get a great amount of funds to build the nuclear warhead to begin with. And even if they did that they would still have to create means of getting that warhead to its target. Even if they walked it in they would have to get though secutiry and wat not. (after 9/11 not thinking thats a good idea...) and even if they get it in and set it off the destruction that a group could fund to build a nuclear weapon would have less effect if they had not just build a simple nail bomb... (forgot the name) and as scourge said even if they build the great nuclear bomb witch would take alot of time that county and group would only have 1 and lets see how far that gets them...

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