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    Is Obama a Deciever?

    YouTube - The Obama Deception HQ Full length version

    I just saw this video today.

    In brief:
    Quote Originally Posted by From Alex Jone's info Wars
    The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people.

    The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery.
    Quote Originally Posted by From Alex Jone's info Wars
    - Obama is continuing the process of transforming America into something that resembles Nazi Germany, with forced National Service, domestic civilian spies, warrantless wiretaps, the destruction of the Second Amendment, FEMA camps and Martial Law.

    - Obama's handlers are openly announcing the creation of a new Bank of the World that will dominate every nation on earth through carbon taxes and military force.

    - International bankers purposefully engineered the worldwide financial meltdown to bankrupt the nations of the planet and bring in World Government.

    - Obama plans to loot the middle class, destroy pensions and federalize the states so that the population is completely dependent on the Central Government.

    - The Elite are using Obama to pacify the public so they can usher in the North American Union by stealth, launch a new Cold War and continue the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.
    I watched the video and I did do a little search and found their answers to be true. I couldn't confirm all their facts because the video is 1 hour and 53 minutes long.
    [need time for studies]~'

    What do you people think?

    And please, no flame wars.

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    I watch, read, and listen to the news, and I didn’t need a 1hour 53min video to realize the Obama sham as I know basic Gov. and Business to know what has a chance of working and what will totally blow everything to hell and Obama is definitely blowing everything to hell. The people he has appointed are people who were always questionable in terms of skill as well as ethical motives. He wants to turn not just the US but the world into a quazy socialistic state where Gov. has far more power then it should. Also, he and his people have over stepped their boundaries as stated in the constitution of the US on multiple occasions which is a HUGE violation of Gov. Practice.
    People bitch about Bush and his 80billion $ bail out which was a mistake which we now know these sort of things don't work, how ever, after just being in office for about 2 months Obama has already spent 3 (or is it 6) Trillion dollars. That’s over 3 times that of what Bush did, and all that money we will never see again because it’s going straight into the pockets of his people. He is doing this to assure his rea election with these people so that they support him and also to make pay offs. He also has no clue what the hell he is doing and his policies are terrible. He talks about transparency but yet doesn’t allow any information to be seen or heard by the people, he locks every one out. He pushed his porculus package out so fast that no one had time to read it but yet he had time to take a week long vacation. He talks about being non partisan but refuses to sit down and listen to a Republican about any issue as well as staking both the house and the senate full of democrats that Republicans and others objections mean nothing.
    His foreign policy sucks, his economic policies suck, his business sense if you can call it that sucks... He will go down as the worst president in US history.
    And all of this is just the tip of the ice burge.
    Also, half of my family is Democrat and guess what, they dispise Obama, so don't think for one second that what I am talking about is biased. Most of my family are Engineers and the other half in busness. Hell my uncle is a sociel worker, god the horrer stories he tells us will even make Satan shudder. This is all fact, or does fact now a days mean nothing?

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    Do you honestly think that a politician is perfect? I think you're smarter then that. Do I think Obama is deceiving us? No, he's done more to benifet the US in his first 100 days in office then Bush did in his first year.

    After 8 years of Republicans in the Oval screwing the pooch every chance it got would make the US happy that things are being done right for a change.

    Even though I'm Canadian, I'm a Liberal Canadian. I despise conservatism, especially when such conservatism infringes on peoples rights (Patriot Act, DMCA), violates established international law (War in Iraq), and plunges the world into an economic recession the likes that have not been seen since the 1930's.

    as for your comments Scrouge:

    Socialism works. Canada, Britain, France, Germany, and many other countries should stand testament to that. Our economies are a hell of a lot stronger then the US right now as a result of that. The idea that Socialism = Communism, and thus is a bad thing, is a load of Hoo-Ha. We also stand a greater chance of coming out of the recession stronger then the states as well.

    I would think that the fact that Bush tried to give the Government more power should be more important. he enacted the Patriot Act for Pete's sake. That bill gave federal agents the right to hold you in custody with out charges for how ever long they wished if they thought you were a threat to the nation.

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    Never said Bush or any other polotision was perfect, and there were a lot of things that he did I didnt agree with.
    Also, I never said Socielsom was Communisom so please do not twist my words around.
    A lot of what he said is Bull and I have not seen any of this transparancy and non partison that he was so hell bent to up hold. Not to mention he is spending money more so then any president in such a short amount of time, money that we do not have by the way.
    You also said Obama has done more good... Care to give an example that hasnt made things worse? So far every time one of his speakers start talken the stockmarket takes a load in its pants.
    I dont expect a rapped 360 change in our economy or other long term issues that take time to resolve, but his transparincy and non partison and other polociy of that nature he likes to talk about doesnt take any time at all, and I am wondering as to why we have not seen any of that.
    Also you say your self that you despise conservatism, which tells me and other people most of what you say about said topic is based on emotion rather then facts.
    You say you also hate when those in power violate the peoples rights, well he is also violating peoples rights. Ever hurd of the "Fairness Doctren"? Basicly what it does is try to cap what people say about the Gov. If people have a gripe about what Gov. is doing, they are basicly sensered and can't voice them selves freely over the radio and other insitusions, they have to be screaned to find what they say is acceptable. Thats a violation of the first amendment right there, the freedome of speech. Also the taxation of specific individuals and institutions are also a violation of the constatustion.
    I am a conservative. I base most of what I say on fact. If I find something, I try to find something else that counters that and weigh the two. So please, don't ever insult me like that again.
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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    Quote Originally Posted by aceman67 View Post
    Do you honestly think that a politician is perfect? I think you're smarter then that. Do I think Obama is deceiving us? No, he's done more to benifet the US in his first 100 days in office then Bush did in his first year.
    Really? Based on what?

    Everytime he makes an announcement the stock market plummets again. He not only is spending every cent of the (mostly Democrat) stimulus package that was left to him he keeps asking for more. He keeps adding spending and spending on top of it without explaining where the money will come from then turns around and is unhappy that people don't want their taxes raised. (Which he said he would do people.) Several commentators have called his spending plans exactly what they are, stealing from our children. He is not just being opposed by Republicans on his spending, "Blue Dog" Democrats (social liberals and fiscal conservatives) are his biggest opponents currently.

    His fast track government has been slowed to a crawl because his appointments keep being found out to either have massive conflicts of interest or have broken the law, often in the very area they are supposed to be monitoring (because putting someone in charge of finance that has avoided paying taxes is such a good idea), until now he has the slowest cabinet to get formed in history.

    Rather then relaxing government control he is relinquishing control only in areas that are actually the governments responsibility under the Constitution and expanding their oversite in areas they have created to the point that in the last report of one of his organizations they defined potential terrorists so broadly that the government could put you on a watch list just for voting for a 3rd party politician or opponent of the government (non-democrat), speaking out against abortions, owning guns, etc. That is hardly lessening the governments power to interfere in the lives of it's citizens especially since he is speaking of what could turn into mandatory "volunteer" organizations run by him keeping an eye on local affairs and civilian militias also controlled by him (instead of the governors) that would be given financing equal to the National Guard.

    The reason the US is in a recession is the government, period. Bad policies by the Congress (again mostly Democrat) and supported by a President (Republican) that didn't really understand economics caused the situation not the market. Now the current administration is ignoring every specialist and using it as an opportunity to push through socialist programs WE CAN'T AFFORD! Socialism works, on small scales (and only with 100% approval by the citizens involved), the scale he is using is very very big and will collapse under it own weight. His administration is not only making the situation worse they are then talking about taking government control over private companies and banks in order to fix the problem that the government made in the first place. Socialism may work on a small scale but running companies on socialistic rules does not and instead leads to laziness, waste, and expense.


    The US is not Canada and our government is not run the same. Before getting all happy about his "changes" you need to see them in the context they are happening in, our laws, constitution, and regulations. This is not about whether socialism or conservatism is better or worse. It is about the rule of law and the mess that is our current government (and has been for about 4-6 years now).


    This isn't change, it is more of the same that got us where we are. On top of that "transparency in government" evidently really means only letting us know what he wants us to, "no Ear-Marks" really means only the Ear-Marks he likes, "I won't appoint any lobbyist in my government" means except for _____, and "I won't pass a bill that hasn't had time to be reviewed" and "I will post bills online for the nation to read" means I wasn't really serious about that now excuse me while I go on vacation. He is even attacking any journalist or political commentator that dares to disagree with him (against the Constitution) and keeps trying to shut them up. So much for free press. His appointment list is a who's who of Clinton board members and liberal lobbyists. So much for change or someone who will be outside DC politics.


    On top of all that his utter lack of experience in foreign affairs (if not incompetence) is showing up big time. Since he stepped into office; China has become aggressive again (as they always do to test one of our new presidents) and has begun claiming international water as their own, Russia bribed one of our allies to kick us out of the main supply route (if not only) to support in Afghanistan, and of course Iran and Gaza has made several statements demonizing the president (in spite of everyone thinking that for some reason he wouldn't be).


    To put it simply, we, as a nation, are screwed for the next 2 years.


    I am sure everyone that hates the US is throwing a massive party. I hope they enjoy it. This is what electing a "world president" instead of one that actually knows how to govern under our laws and in our interest gets us.

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    i honestly agree with all of you. Obama is no Saviour, but i don't think i can judge him enough to say hes worse than Bush.
    i was shocked when i heard exactly how much Obama was spending, and i think he just does not know fully what he is doing. I think he is naive and he thinks spending the money will boost the economy, when actually he is freaking out behind his desk.
    i seriously don't think he's trying to screw us all over. but he slowly is.
    Socialism does work. When its the right person controlling everything.

    i think one day our government will fail and that will be it. no one seems to be reacting positively to any problem and we keep screwing it up even more.

    However one thing interests me. way back Kennedy enacted something that made the economy steady again. he enacted before his death, but it didn't affect until after word, but it did help. i am curious what it is.(i read about it in a government textbook somewhere). If it was legitimate and good why don't we enact once more? do we even have enough money for that?

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rave_Grip View Post
    YouTube - The Obama Deception HQ Full length version

    I just saw this video today.

    In brief:




    I watched the video and I did do a little search and found their answers to be true. I couldn't confirm all their facts because the video is 1 hour and 53 minutes long.
    [need time for studies]~'

    What do you people think?

    And please, no flame wars.
    I'm pretty sure alot of people know he's the antichrist. Its just so obvious.
    And he isn't fooling anybody. But we will know for sure in the next 8 years. We can talk about all we want, but when it starts happening will be the only time we will be proven correct.
    Which side are you on.(?)

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    Re: Is Obama a Deciever?

    I thought the entire point of the Anti Christ is that we aren't supposed to expect who it is. Everyone said Bush was the Anti Christ too.
    And I assumed one the main things about the End of the World is that we aren't supposed to know when it happens. Thats the whole judgment part of it.
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