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Old Jul 17, 2007, 06:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

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But the point is if everyone stopped being violent there wouldn't be any need to stand up for your self because no one would have a quarrel with you this is my point if everyone stopped being violent no one need protect themselves or feel scared for the rest of their life.
Unfortunately, that'll never b the case. The only way to end violence, is ta end mankind. Like I said before, there r many reasons for violence. Most r stupid and pointless, but some r done for very important reasons. Did u know that Hitler's march across Europe was jus' a pretext to his invasion of the U.S. Scholars found a book that he had written which contained his plans and reasons for wanting ta invade the U.S. He then put it under lock and key 'til the invasion was over and then he was gonna publish it. Lemme ask u this...

Should we have done nothin' ta stop him, if he decided ta carry through wit his plans?

What 'bout the bombin' of Pearl Harbor? Should we have jus' stood by and done nothin'?

No real person wants violence, but sometimes we must resort ta such methods for very important reasons, such as defendin' ourselves and maintaining the peace. No one likes it, it's jus' one of those things that sometimes must b done.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 08:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

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Violence is usually stemmed from short-tempered "perfectionists" who most-of-the-time believe it's stupid for people to think they're wrong. They never listen to the people's reasons or even look upon their actions in another view, they just want to believe they're correct. (by the way, perfectionist has nothing to do with being prissy or having a neat and orderly house... it can even be a jock who's captain of the football team)



But again... for those who NEVER listen... for those who NEVER want to listen...
Violence is to either make sure they'll WANT to listen, or make sure they're never heard of again. (Afterall, most people need a leader... and if this fool becomes a leader, who knows what will happen)

... though, we can all tell that this does have amazing backfires.
WOW! Excellent point made. You a psych major? ^_^

Anywho! I totally agree. Violence is never needed, but people tend to think so. I like to always be right, but if I'm wrong... Oh well. I'm just wrong. But most other people don't like to think that way. "I'm right! I'll show you! I'll show all of you!!!" Then the chaos follows.

That's pretty much the sum of it. Some Anal-retentive a-hole gets a hair up his butt about being proved wrong, or desperately wants to be right, other guy won't shut up; so he decides to shut him up himself. POW! A fight breaks out and both guys go to jail. Who won? I did, I had ten bucks on that fight, LOL.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 09:05 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

People say that its human nature to be violent. Violence, in my opinion, can be EXTREMELY entertaining. I mean, i realize it must be hard for you to understand(Seeing as you hate violence), I personally love violence. Someone mentioned earlier that violence stems from people who can't accept they're wrong in certain situations. That CAN be true...but what if I like commiting violence simply because it entertains me? For instance, I've been in some fights in my life...some I could have ran away from...but that wouldn't be very fun, would it? Besides, without violence...there would really be no anime. I mean, there would be SOME...but it wouldn't be as entertaining...no GTA...and also no 300...and we simply can't have that. Violence may be undesirable(For the most part), but it is still necessary.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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People say that its human nature to be violent. Violence, in my opinion, can be EXTREMELY entertaining. I mean, i realize it must be hard for you to understand(Seeing as you hate violence), I personally love violence. Someone mentioned earlier that violence stems from people who can't accept they're wrong in certain situations. That CAN be true...but what if I like commiting violence simply because it entertains me? For instance, I've been in some fights in my life...some I could have ran away from...but that wouldn't be very fun, would it? Besides, without violence...there would really be no anime. I mean, there would be SOME...but it wouldn't be as entertaining...no GTA...and also no 300...and we simply can't have that. Violence may be undesirable(For the most part), but it is still necessary.
Violence is only necessary when defending yourself from un-necessary violence. I'm not a violent person, but I like to fight--if that makes sense. Like the old saying goes, "Don't start no s***, won't be no s***!" Now, I don't go around looking for people who have grudges against me, or people I know are gonna want to fight. But, if you start somethin', I can guarantee there will be somethin'. ^_^

But I digress from my point. Violence is entertaining on television and in the media, yes that is true. But when it comes down to the well being of another human being, there's nothing entertaining about it. Pro wrestling, UFC, hell--even footbal is entertaining! But random ass-whoopins? Naw, it's not in me to find that entertaining.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 07:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

hmmmm......my view on violence is one that is called for, not the randomness of bashing heads and killing needlessly...rather selective and needed....who ever has heard the expression "first to fight" or "fight to keep our honor clean"... these words kind of express what i am trying to explain... the only good violence(and I say this in a reserve way) is the type you need to use only when you have to protect yourself, others....and the military way of thinking on violence is well, shall we say rugid, and very foward but its needed to be able to launch and take control of situations that sometimes seem out of control...here again though one persons thoughts on this is going to be different to anothers persons thoughts......final word- is violence is needed to sometimes control events and it is needed to keep us on our toes......i might not be talking to clearly on this subject but i thought i would give it a go.
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 07:53 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

you have to violence to get your point across sometimes well most of the time. you cant always settel things by talking it out. most of the time that doest get the point across. Now some things like random acts of violence are for fun even though it isnt good fun some people show off like that.Theres even a sports for it like boxing or weresling. they have no point and there very violent but its all for our entertainment
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Re: The Point Of Violence

lets keep it simple...
Wuts the point of violence?
that when all other possible means to settle a dispute didn't work, to state/defend that one idea/person/wutever is superior to another one.
and like Abu Dhabi said... its part of human nature, it's like the the oldest way to solve things. plus its fun too ^^
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Old Jul 17, 2007, 10:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: The Point Of Violence

The point of violence is violence. Umm, duh, right? Wrong. People try to hit youwith the phrase, "There's no point to violence," yes there is. Between people, violence is about inflicting pain, right? If you want to inflict pain, you should be inflicting to inflict pain, not for any other reason. However, there's a subtle hypocrisy behind this idea because people have it in their heads that nothing happens without a reason or cause.

Primarily, violence is used as a physical control over someone else. If you cause someone pain, they are more likely to do what you tell them to, it's just human nature. Granted, there are other more 'practical' ways to implement control over someone that people consider less violent, but not exactly less cruel. Violence is the quickest, simplest way to control someone. To say it has no point is to say nature has no point. Maybe it doesn't, but that's not what we're arguing here....

Plus think about something for a moment. Many of you say there's no point to violence, but tell me, who among you do not derive a certain pleasure or entertainment from watching a man on T.V. get brutually shot to death in cop show, play video games where blood spews like a fountain regardless of where you hit the guy, or watch movies about wars and death and glory? You can say violence has no point all you want, but there's nothing very realistic behind your claim.
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Re: The Point Of Violence

the point of violence ummmmmmmmmm
there is no point i don't think. it is just a reaction. me i have fun pretending like i am fighting with my friends specally with friends at school cause it helps me blow off steam and learn how to defend my self.i don't like to fright seriously because i am the kind of person who can talk stuff over and don't stay mad for long so i am like what is the point. some people at my school say just give them some boxing gloves and let them go out side and fight and everything will be settled.wouldn't that just make the problem worse. i don't get it.
That is why i think violence is just a reaction to anger
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 03:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Huh? Well me personally I enjoy hurting people. Fighting is pretty damn fun. Oh and Dark has teh correct.
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Old Jul 18, 2007, 10:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Me and Shodokan agreeing. Whoa.

Violence is a natural human tool. Call it primitive, call it barbarious, but at the end of the day it still exists and always will so long as we're human. People call wars pointless, and yet wars have shaped our society. Two little kids get in a fight on the playground and people wonder, "what was the point?" Maybe the point wasn't worthy of combat by an adult's standards, and perhaps there truly was no reason for the fight. But violence is triggered by our own human nature, just the same as love or excitement.
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