Polygamy - Page 3

*Arrianna* · Feb 17, 2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Miroku4444

So those friends of yours that grew up in a Polygamy family, the parents were excommunicated? I thought it was abolished, I'm confused.

I thought we covered that before? There are numerous sects that have broken off from the LDS church some of which still practice polygamy. It is absolutely despicable as they do it and it breaks not only secular law but the laws regulating it in the church 2+ centuries ago before it's abolishment. Some of them call themselves "Mormons" still (just like protestants still call themselves Christians after breaking from the Catholic church) but the "Mormon Church" ie LDS Church has abolished it and anyone caught participating is excommunicated; so "Mormons" do not practice polygamy in spite of the ongoing stereotyping. My friends belonged to the Fundamentalist Church and I haven't seen one of them since she was 17 after what they did to her. I live close enough to one of these sects to have known more then one person involved and seen multiple lives destroyed by the practice.

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Originally Posted by Miroku4444

I think Polygamy is wrong. Marriage Is a sacred union between two people, showing their devotion to each other thru this union. Also its hard enough pleasing one woman yet alone more that one. If you want more that one woman just dont get married, and have as many gf as you want if their up for it.

I agree whole heartedly. And if that doesn't put why they have more then one wife in the proper perspective I don't know what does since there really is no difference between them and a guy who goes around getting all his girlfriends pregnant. That anyway is the state of polygamy in the US and Canada.

tsurara · Feb 18, 2008, 01:53 AM

Polygamy is not the practice of having more than one partner: it's the practice of having more than one spouse.

Since gay people can't legally marry at all in most places and polygamy is currently illegal just about everywhere even for straight couples -- I'm pretty sure there isn't any gay polygamy going on.

For once, God hating us seems to make things slightly simpler. If we're going to ignore the whole Leviticus thing, I guess we don't really need to pay any attention to the parts of the bible about having 6 wives, condemning other faiths or not eating things without hooves either...

I don't think polygamy is currently in "the gay agenda"... but who knows what we'll want after we get marriage!

We might decide to bring animal sacrifice back

Nope... no polygamy.

Pretty much ALL polyamory falls under the "gay" umbrella though. There are only two genders... that means if you're going to have a relationship with three or more people at once: you're going to double-up somewhere.

Billum256 · Feb 19, 2008, 04:52 AM

Ahh polygamy....what a reminder of when I was Morman. Never did agree with old Joseph Smith. Well I'm against it, don't really see the point in it. In fact I have something against it personally. I won't kill over it, its techniclly not my bussiness but I'm a really nosy person so it annoys me.

Scourge · Feb 19, 2008, 07:26 AM

There really is no reason for Polygamy unless the Human race is on the brink of extinction. I for one am aganst it. There should only be one wife and one husband, and that also gose for gays and bis. Merrage is suppose to be a union of two people, not three, not four, but just two. As said before, the reason for Poligamy is for mass production of babies. Others I think just like it for the sake of having more then one partner to do the dirty deed with. Or because its just practiced because its part of a culture.
Well from where I am standing, the Human population is not in a decline, infact there are to many of us in the would and our planet is struggling to keep us all alive. Those who practice Polygamy just for the sake of having sex is just digusting and makes my skin crawl just thinking about it, its just wrong because there is no love, no nothing. Its just vile and selfish. Now for the culturle aspect of this and I dont mean to offend any one in any way buy this so please dont hurt me, but the simple fact that Polygamy was practiced because said culture had a small population and most likey a high infant mortality raight. But todays day and age, infant mortality raight had deminished around the world in all but a few countries. So for those who still practice Polygamy simply because its part of a culture, then I think strongly that it should be brought up to date.

*atomik_sprout* · Feb 19, 2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RayMe

-what would you feel if you are involved in a poligamy?
-Is there poligamy in gay relationship?
-Do you believe that all the ones in the relationship can cooperate?

Hmm... Polygamy, eh? I've never really put too much thought in to the subject unless I'm in a conversation dealing with Muslims and/or Mormons, LOL.

I suppose that were it legal in the state of Minnesota, I wouldn't have a problem with it. If a person wants to marry multiple people, let him/her go for it! Whatever makes them happy. I personally don't know how I'd feel about it. Typically, when I'm in a relationship, that one person is the only person I care about. So, having multiple wives kinda sounds unfair to the women who would be wives #2, #3 and so on. ALTHOUGH, it does sound like a fun idea. What man doesn't have fantasies about multiple sex partners?

But then there's the issue of multiple-divorces. So, what happens if all of your spouses decide they want to divorce you at the same exact time? Do you lose half of your income and belongings and they split it? Or--let's say you've got three wives--would each wive get an automatic quarter of your crap, leaving you with 25% of what you came in with? That sounds like some scary ish, man!

Then there's the whole jealousy bit... People love to embrace jealousy these days. I can look at a guy's girlfriend and say, you've got ketchup on your blouse and dude'll blow up, screamin' at me, "Why you lookin' at my girl's chest, dawg??!!" LOL. So, I can't imagine having multiple wives and dealin' with daily catfights. I bet it's a hassle.

It sounds to me--based on my own random thoughts on polygamy--that there's more consequence then there is benefit.

To answer your question on gay polygamy: Why not? Do gay people not have orgies? Do gay people not cheat on one another? Don't gay people fantasize about multiple spouses/partners? I'd assume so. They're human too, y'know. Would it be any different then hetero-polygamy? Probably not. Like I said a week or two ago, "All marriage is wrong". So, let them do it up, if that makes them happy.

*Arrianna* · Feb 21, 2008, 06:52 PM

It was pointed out to me that my statement....

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

I thought we covered that before? There are numerous sects that have broken off from the LDS church some of which still practice polygamy. It is absolutely despicable as they do it and it breaks not only secular law but the laws regulating it in the church 2+ centuries ago before it's abolishment. Some of them call themselves "Mormons" still (just like protestants still call themselves Christians after breaking from the Catholic church) but the "Mormon Church" ie LDS Church has abolished it and anyone caught participating is excommunicated; so "Mormons" do not practice polygamy in spite of the ongoing stereotyping.

Might be a little confusing (and I agree) so I will try again.

Only a few sects that broke off from the LDS church practice polygamy. The LDS church does not (and abolished the practice in 1890 well over a century ago) nor do many other sects that have broken from the "Mormon" church. Similarly there are a few Protestant sects that have or do practice polygamy. As a result to claim that a polygamist must be "Mormon" is stereotyping and no more true then saying they must be Protestant or even Christians in general (and considering why the thread was started that one is blatantly untrue). It would be like saying that all Protestants dress in severely plain clothing and never dance or that Catholics believe the sun revolves around the earth... sure there may be some that do but it can hardly be an accurate statement can it, hence stereotyping.

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Originally Posted by tsurara

Polygamy is not the practice of having more than one partner: it's the practice of having more than one spouse.

No it isn't. Polygamy is the practice of a man having more then one wife. As a result it is not nor can it be a "gay practice". Polyandry is the practice of a woman having more then one husband. With marriage not being in the picture there is no word for multiple gay spouses... orgy maybe?

aceman67 · Feb 21, 2008, 09:47 PM

Polyamory is the term you're looking for there Arrianna, which is the practice of having more then one relationship where all parties agree.

*Arrianna* · Feb 21, 2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by aceman67

Polyamory is the term you're looking for there Arrianna, which is the practice of having more then one relationship where all parties agree.

polyamory
n
participation in multiple and simultaneous loving or sexual relationships

Yep, that would be it. Thanks Aceman.

tsurara · Feb 21, 2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrianna

No it isn't.

yes it is

from the stems
poly - multiple
gamy - marriage

like "bigamy" (from bi - two and gamy - marriage)

polygamy - Definitions from Dictionary.com

note - polygamy

1591, from L.L. polygamia, from Late Gk. polygamia "polygamy," from polygamos "often married," from polys "many" + gamos "marriage" (see gamete). Not etymologically restricted to marriage of one man and multiple women (technically polygyny), but often used as if it were.

Miroku4444 · Feb 22, 2008, 08:49 AM

Ok heres the low down:

Polygyny=A man having more than one wife
Polyandry=A Woman having more than one husband
polygamy=The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time(But was generally used to refer to a Man having multiple wives.)
bigamy=Bigamy is accentually the same as polygamy, but bigamy is used in reference to the criminal aspect of having more than one spouse.

"Law. the crime of marrying while one has a wife or husband still living, from whom no valid divorce has been effected."
____________
As for the gays, thats a mystery. Most of these terms are used for the opposite sex actions. I guess you could use a broad definition of polygamy if gays get the right to marriage. If they dont its just Polymory.

Polyhomogamy?? = "The practice of a homosexual having more than one spouse"

*Arrianna* · Feb 22, 2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Miroku4444

Ok heres the low down:

Polygyny=A man having more than one wife
Polyandry=A Woman having more than one husband
polygamy=The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time(But was generally used to refer to a Man having multiple wives.)
bigamy=Bigamy is accentually the same as polygamy, but bigamy is used in reference to the criminal aspect of having more than one spouse.

"Law. the crime of marrying while one has a wife or husband still living, from whom no valid divorce has been effected."
____________
As for the gays, thats a mystery. Most of these terms are used for the opposite sex actions. I guess you could use a broad definition of polygamy if gays get the right to marriage. If they dont its just Polymory.

Polyhomogamy?? = "The practice of a homosexual having more than one spouse"

ohhhh... Polygyny, Polygamy, they almost sound identical. I see the reason for confusion. Especially since:

polygamy
1591, from L.L. polygamia, from Late Gk. polygamia "polygamy," from polygamos "often married," from polys "many" + gamos "marriage" (see gamete). Not etymologically restricted to marriage of one man and multiple women (technically polygyny), but often used as if it were.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

Usually it only does mean Polygyny with the way it is used modernly. Language drift strikes again.

Either way it doesn't apply to gays unless they were to start getting married to multiple spouses. It does require a legal situation.

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tsurara anti-semantics Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Shikoku Posts: 1,312 Thanks: 5 Thanked 81 Times in 55 Posts Credits: 61,124	Re: Polygamy Polygamy is not the practice of having more than one partner: it's the practice of having more than one spouse. Since gay people can't legally marry at all in most places and polygamy is currently illegal just about everywhere even for straight couples -- I'm pretty sure there isn't any gay polygamy going on. For once, God hating us seems to make things slightly simpler. If we're going to ignore the whole Leviticus thing, I guess we don't really need to pay any attention to the parts of the bible about having 6 wives, condemning other faiths or not eating things without hooves either... I don't think polygamy is currently in "the gay agenda"... but who knows what we'll want after we get marriage! We might decide to bring animal sacrifice back Nope... no polygamy. Pretty much ALL polyamory falls under the "gay" umbrella though. There are only two genders... that means if you're going to have a relationship with three or more people at once: you're going to double-up somewhere. __________________ <-RUNAWAYS-> <-lemonsquares? yay!-> <-Mmrs->
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Scourge Otaku Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 444 Thanks: 104 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts Credits: 31,066	Re: Polygamy There really is no reason for Polygamy unless the Human race is on the brink of extinction. I for one am aganst it. There should only be one wife and one husband, and that also gose for gays and bis. Merrage is suppose to be a union of two people, not three, not four, but just two. As said before, the reason for Poligamy is for mass production of babies. Others I think just like it for the sake of having more then one partner to do the dirty deed with. Or because its just practiced because its part of a culture. Well from where I am standing, the Human population is not in a decline, infact there are to many of us in the would and our planet is struggling to keep us all alive. Those who practice Polygamy just for the sake of having sex is just digusting and makes my skin crawl just thinking about it, its just wrong because there is no love, no nothing. Its just vile and selfish. Now for the culturle aspect of this and I dont mean to offend any one in any way buy this so please dont hurt me, but the simple fact that Polygamy was practiced because said culture had a small population and most likey a high infant mortality raight. But todays day and age, infant mortality raight had deminished around the world in all but a few countries. So for those who still practice Polygamy simply because its part of a culture, then I think strongly that it should be brought up to date.
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Miroku4444 Tournaments Won: 3 Ecchi Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 3,226 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Credits: 13,747	Re: Polygamy Ok heres the low down: Polygyny=A man having more than one wife Polyandry=A Woman having more than one husband polygamy=The condition or practice of having more than one spouse at one time(But was generally used to refer to a Man having multiple wives.) bigamy=Bigamy is accentually the same as polygamy, but bigamy is used in reference to the criminal aspect of having more than one spouse. "Law. the crime of marrying while one has a wife or husband still living, from whom no valid divorce has been effected." ____________ As for the gays, thats a mystery. Most of these terms are used for the opposite sex actions. I guess you could use a broad definition of polygamy if gays get the right to marriage. If they dont its just Polymory. Polyhomogamy?? = "The practice of a homosexual having more than one spouse" __________________ "You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, you'll set the dogs on me. But that's what has to happen." Last edited by Miroku4444; Feb 22, 2008 at 09:00 AM.
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