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Old Jan 24, 2008, 01:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

In regards to an "Impact":

The only arguements I've heard of late that are in the smallest bit valid, are the ones concerning "Nemesis" (AKA, the revised Planet X theory). This theory involves a "Brown Dwarf" (dead star that has not gone Supernova nor turned into a blackhole), which is a twin to our primary star Sol (The big orange thing in the sky).

This theory states that this giant Darkstar occasionally, every so many thousands of years passes by a nearby Oort cloud, which then pummels nearby planets in our system with thousands upon thousands of meteorites\asteroids and cause an Extinction Event.

This is one of the many preposed theories behind the death of the dinosaurs, and the strange coincidences concerning ancient calenders.


So, NO. Unless the Asteroid is Wormwood, I most sincerely doubt its heading our way.

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Old Jan 24, 2008, 02:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

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Yeah I read what mellowmaromis' dude said and what tsuraras' dude said. In all honesty I can't even see why you would be worried about something like this. Like the astromaner says it can't be that professional if he thinks lightning comes from the suns plasma. I don't see there being any kind of armegedon(spelling?) any time soon. After all I'm a believer in God so I belive that the end is when he comes, and I don't think an asteroid counts as god.
In FFVII - sorry, geek self talking - it was the cause for the end.

Putting aside my geeky self, if there were an Asteroid that large and supposedly the government was lying in some way about it, why would the newspapers, channels and all that lie? They happily tell any story that would give them a raise in viewers, aliens, floodings, anything. I'm sure there are contacts within NASA as well so that if anything were to come, it would be headline news.

Besides, don't count out the military power just yet for there are still the "Star Wars" lasers up and running from the cold war days. With a few upgrades it would take a huge threat and at least push it away, it is space, not much energy is needed to change a beeline course to a different location.
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Old Jan 25, 2008, 06:18 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

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With a few upgrades it would take a huge threat and at least push it away, it is space, not much energy is needed to change a beeline course to a different location.
Well that depends on how much force it is exerting towards us that depends on how much force wed have to use to change its direction. And if it were a large enough astroid we may not have enough fire power to push it away. Though i personly dont know of any HUGE asteroids like that.
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Old Jan 25, 2008, 06:28 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

even though it is in space, a large asteroid is going to have astronomical () momentum. you wouldnt just be able to "push it away" with the star wars lasers. besides, they where more or les just for detecting missiles.

since im a FFVII nerd to, i suppose if you are really that worried about it, mello maromi, go find a white materia called "holy"
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Old Jan 26, 2008, 10:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

Never said I was worried. Never even said I regret anything. I wouldn't even be said if it were to hit.
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Old Jan 26, 2008, 10:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

i think people should go by instince when it comes
to things like astroids and other planet disasters , why
would sanyone belive this guy? i was watching something
simular on the discovery channel i think and they said we would
have a astroid fly through our atmosphere not hitting but just skimming
our sky not really doing any damage in the year 2078 but 7 years after that
they theorise that it might hit us but arnt sure.

i would belive them more than this guy since the discovery channle pretty much
is the nerd channel ir if you watch the science chanle eother there more reliable than
anything on you tube or something
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 01:01 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

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i think people should go by instince when it comes
to things like astroids and other planet disasters , why
would sanyone belive this guy? i was watching something
simular on the discovery channel i think and they said we would
have a astroid fly through our atmosphere not hitting but just skimming
our sky not really doing any damage in the year 2078 but 7 years after that
they theorise that it might hit us but arnt sure.

i would belive them more than this guy since the discovery channle pretty much
is the nerd channel ir if you watch the science chanle eother there more reliable than
anything on you tube or something
If you would research, you would find out some facts. Its a fact that this asteroid is coming on tuesday. Its a fact that it would be the closest asteroid of this size or larger until 2027.

The asteroid you mentioned that they mentioned on the discovery channel is called Apophis, and is coming in 2027, friday 13th, in april. Then, in 2036, it could come back around, and from being affected by the earths gravity the first time, it could hit the second time. Again, on friday the thirteenth.

Astronomers just discovered this new asteroid 3 months ago, long after those discovery channel videos came out.


Whats up for debate is whether this new asteroid will have any affect on us.
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

nah, I am not frightened about a little rock that is going to hit our planet.
and why would one hit us now? when the earth has been here for 4 billion years and counting.
sure the dinos were wiped out by something like that, but why has nothing hit us earlier?
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 01:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

Tunguska..

Overload, if the earth didnt have weather to cover up craters with erosian, we'd have more craters then the moon. We have been hit so many time with asteroids, wiping out over 80% of species every time.

Humans haven't even been on this planet for very long. Life has existand for 4 billion years, and humans a mere 10,000? There are less asteroids floating around in our solar system then there was 65 million years ago, but there is still asteroids that could hit us.

Like apophis, for example. If and when that hits, it would release the energy equivalent to 880 million tons of TNT.

That's 16 times more powerful then the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated, which shattered windows 500 miles away.

TU24 is roughly the same size as Apophis, and would impact with around the same energy, if it were to impact.

It would cost hundreds of millions of lives.

And we just got hit by an asteroid 100 years ago, in russia. A 50 Meter asteroid, exploded in the sky, wiping out 1000 square kilometers of land, knocking down thousands of trees, and killing thousands of deers.

You have a higher chance of getting hit with an asteroid then you do getting struck by lightning.
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

anyone here who believes that asteroid is going to hit earth is laughable.
first off... they wouldn't classify it as an asteroid if that threat was there (for those of you saying that it looks like they're right on top of each other in the video) Two things.
The scale in that video is massive MASSIVE (incase you didn't get that the first time) this means that even though they look like they're overlapping doesn't mean they are.
Second thing is that you'd nees an asteroid much bigger to actually make contact. Why? Atmosphere. The atmosphere is constantly burning up asteroids (that's why we have falling stars)
Even if it were somehow possible that it would hit... (which it's not) countries around the world would already have put something into action to stop it... especially since korea is now able to launch projectiles into space with almost pinpoint accuracy. Believe me when I say that the people who train to study the universe for a profession (the people in NASA and other organizations like it) are highy qualified in what they do.
So why don't we let them do their jobs and worry about bigger problems like how humanity is going to destroy itself.
I honestly think that a massive rock hurtling through the cosmos at our planet might do the world some good... at least everyone would finally have found a common enemy something that threatens more then how much a nation can spend in a year or how many people we can kill for black crude that we seem to think is essential to life eventhough it's liquified death. But whatever it's not happening and if it was it would be HUGE now wait MASSIVE ^_^
Have a nice day now.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 07:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Possible Asteroid Impact: 1/29/2008

It's on the PHA list, meaning that the threat is indeed there. They labeled it as "potentially most hazardous asteroid until 2027."

The scale in that video has nothing to do with my belief that its possible the asteroid will hit. I'm not an idiot. I know that when you scale planets to the size of a dot, it will look they are touching, even if they're thousands of miles apart.

Now to what you're saying about the atmosphere, that is false. The atmosphere burns ups rocks the size of pebbles and sand. Any asteroid bigger then that would either pass through the atmosphere, or explode in the air, sending the shockwave down destroything thousands of kilometers of land. (Tunguska.. which was only 50 meters wide, compared to TU24, which is 500 meters wide).

Falling stars are caused by meteors the size of sand.

And as much as you would like to believe that the countries around the world would stop it from impacting, that just isn't there. The amount of scientists working in the United States on tracking asteroids and determining if its going to hit or not, can fit in the average Mcdonalds restaurant.

If they concluded that the asteroid was going to hit, they wouldn't tell the media, nor the public. The amount of violence and deaths from just the mass panic would far exceed the amount that would be evacuated to safety.

The Officials would simply get into a bunker, and hide, secretly.


Heres some updates on the matter.

The US military is powering down sensitive equipment for the TU24 approach. They are also backing up sensitive data in multiple locations. No chance of impact, but they feel they need to 'play it safe'(?)

And a few of the World's leaders are gathering in Switzerland for an economic forum, during the time this asteroid is supposed to arrive. Incidentally, they will be near the largest Nuclear Bunker in the World.

Not to mention, there is a US spy satellite that suddenly lost all power and guidance, and will hit the earth in February. Hmmmm.


The possibility for impact is not 0, and the possibility for electromagnetic disturbance is even greater.
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