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Old Sep 16, 2006, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Privately Owning Guns

As much as people use them protect themselves, it has had an excelation in crime. Should only officers and authorized people have them?
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 10:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

I don't know, even if they only have them it doesn't mean that noboday would ever just try to steal it or keep it hidden so its really hard to say.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 10:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

people kill people not guns i dont think that it would make any difference.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 12:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

I think Yes. only Authorized should be able to. All hell would break loose if everyone held a gun.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 01:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

Is there really a point? I doubt it'll lower the crime rate, murders will only get more messy and gruesome. knives and hands instead of guns. Then there goes home security. Brinks? Gotta wait a few minutes for the cops to arrive when the criminal could shoot/stab someone in a matter of seconds. At least with a firearm you have a chance. And if you can't afford a fancy security system? I doubt pop cans on a string'll stop a burglar, and you're left essentially defenseless.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 02:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

I honestly like how Canada handles guns. Pretty much the only guns allowed for use by the general population are shotguns and rifles, for hunting and whatnot. You CAN get a handgun, but it requires a special licence. We had two types of licences for guns up here, a PAL (possession and acquisition licence) and then a POL (possession only licence) but they got rid of the POL licence awhile ago. The handgun licence is seperate from PAL. Any type of machine gun, sub-machine gun, assault rifle, or anything like that is completely banned in Canada.

The majority of murders within Canada aren't from people who hold licenced guns, it's from thugs on the street who have brought handguns over from America.

Pretty much you can buy any gun in America, hand guns, machine guns, sub machine guns, or pea shooter. It's these types of guns that generally wind up being used in murders, or robberies.

There is no reason to own a machine gun except for the fact of owning it. You can't go hunting with it (you'd blow any animal into pieces). I think the only guns that should be available to the public are shotguns and rifles, just like up here.
Firing ranges should be set up by the federal government where they hold "banned" weapons not allowed for ownership by the public, but where you can go fire them. Like, they'd have a stock of AK's or something that you could go pay to shoot (but like I said, have the range owned by the Federal Government, that way they could keep a close watch over everything. Make sure no guns go missing).


Just the other day, a 25 year old from Quebec went and shot up a college, killing one person and injuring about 20 more. The gun he used wasn't from Canada, it was an illegal assault rifle from the states.

Also, a couple months ago, a kid in Vancouver (he was around 15 I think) was caught having an AK47 on his bed by his mom. She phoned the cops (good on her) who came and picked the gun, and the kid up. Where'd he get the gun? Surprise surprise, he got it shipped up from America.

However, the saying "guns don't kill people; people kill people" IS true. It takes someone to pull the trigger. However, there is no need for the public to own machine guns or any heavy powered firearm, or for personal firearms to be produced on such a level that it is in the United States.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 02:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

no, how will i be able to hunt then? or protect myself. u think just because people arent allowed to have them that they wont have them? look at drugs
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 02:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
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no, how will i be able to hunt then? or protect myself. u think just because people arent allowed to have them that they wont have them? look at drugs

I said that they should allow rifles, and shotguns, but ban the rest. Shotguns and rifles are all you need, and should use, to hunt. Anything else is overkill.

As for protecting yourself....how many times do you hear about someone chasing off a bad guy, because they had a gun on them? Rarely. Most attacks will occur outside of the house, which means to "protect" yourself, you'd have to own a handgun (since you probably wouldn't carry around a machine gun), and have a concealed weapon licence. Because if you were waving that thing around, someone else would probably say "oh snaps, I gotta protect myself!" and then just shoot you. And more than likely, if you were carrying a gun, then chances are your assailant would be carrying a gun as well.

What I'm saying is that guns should be allowed, but just shotguns and rifles. You do NOT need a semi-automatic gun to protect yourself. This isn't the Wild West, and you're probably not going to get into some sort of a shoot-out with someone. A rifle, or shotgun would work just fine.
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

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I said that they should allow rifles, and shotguns, but ban the rest. Shotguns and rifles are all you need, and should use, to hunt. Anything else is overkill.

As for protecting yourself....how many times do you hear about someone chasing off a bad guy, because they had a gun on them? Rarely. Most attacks will occur outside of the house, which means to "protect" yourself, you'd have to own a handgun (since you probably wouldn't carry around a machine gun), and have a concealed weapon licence. Because if you were waving that thing around, someone else would probably say "oh snaps, I gotta protect myself!" and then just shoot you. And more than likely, if you were carrying a gun, then chances are your assailant would be carrying a gun as well.

What I'm saying is that guns should be allowed, but just shotguns and rifles. You do NOT need a semi-automatic gun to protect yourself. This isn't the Wild West, and you're probably not going to get into some sort of a shoot-out with someone. A rifle, or shotgun would work just fine.
thats because people usually dont have guns on them. and yes, invaders do often get shot. pistols are ****in great, and yes, there are lots of shoot-outs, incase u havent noticed. all guns should be allowed.
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Old Sep 16, 2006, 02:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

From http://www.womensagenda.org/Issues/g...DeathandInjury

"A 1998 study in the New England Journal of Medicine found that guns kept in the home for self-protection are 22 times more likely to kill someone known to the owner than to kill in self-defense."

"The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence reports that a gun is used for protection in fewer than two percent of home invasion crimes when someone is at home. "

"FBI statistics from 1996 recorded only 176 justifiable handgun homicides (i.e., committed in self-defense or by police) compared with a total of 9,390 handgun murders in the United States."

I know that there are a lot of police shoot outs (why? cuz the criminals have semi-automatic guns). However, I'm referring to public use. Wuld you care to give any examples where a civilian has gotten into a shoot-out with a criminal? We're not talking one or two shots here, I mean a shoot out as in using up 20 magazines. Because if someone who owned a machine gun DID get in a shoot out, he'd probably use up a lot of clips. All you need is one bullet to stop an intruder. If it takes you 5 clips to finally do damage, you probably shouldn't own a gun in the first place. As I said before, a rifle, or shotgun would do just fine. Anything else is overkill.
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Re: Privately Owning Guns

as it been said befor ppl kill ppl not guns.... if everyone in the world would be resposible and not a friking maniac it wouldnt matter if guns are allowed....
but since the world has some maniacs in it..... I dont think guns should be allowed.... specialy shotguns, I have been in a couple of fiering ranges... and a shotgun can do some major damage.... rifles should be banned too.... if they are going to allow any sort of weapons it should be only pistols.... but the semi automatic ony... cuz a full auto like a glock with a 32 clip can be used as a SMG(for those that dont know what SMG is, its sub machinegun).... so for me they should ban guns, that only trained, authorices and responsible personel should be allowed to used them.... and if they are to allow them, only semi automatic....
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