Peach_follows

No comparison! Have you ever lived in a predominately black neighborhood? Gone to a predominately black school? Have you ever seen what alot of African American innercity kids have to go through????!!!! I have

They arent a bunch of white kids in the suburbs. They're kids who have probably seen more hell than what many go through in their lives.

Im mixed as well PocketLint.. And I lived in the most poverty stricken, crime infested, hood in my state. Which SADLY was predominately african american. And when I went to school, I also went to a school like the one in question.

I was also BAD, called teachers any name I could think up. Why? Because they acted affraid, like victims... But it was ME whos was threatened to be raped everytime I walked home. It was ME who had smell the crack\piss combonation in my alley. It was me who just needed one teacher to see past my "tough" act, and understand WHY I acted that way. Anger... Anger comes from pain.

PocketLint I stand by you 100%

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Miroku4444

Yeah, but this is no excuse for those Students behavior. They shouldn't excuse their actions just because of this. This kind of behavior shouldn't be tolerated ever. Saying its because of how they grew up is a cop out. Not all kids that grow up in these environments act this way or at least to this extreme.

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Tbaism

Are you trying to exclude the fact that white people also go through these situations day in and day out? Poverty and crime infested neighborhoods are all over the world. Are their situation suppose to be any better? I have seen plenty of soup kitchens massed with whites and blacks together plenty of times.

We aren't talking about some shady alley in the bronx when we referr to this story. Those kids obviously didn't walk 500 miles to get to the school, so I could guess that the teacher wasn't too far from living in the same neighborhoods.

You seem to have had some problems of your own in the past it seems, but usually those poverty stricken schools are filled with students aren't they? By what you say, you whole classroom should have been filled to the brim with "tough acting" youngsters. How is a teacher suppose to handle every single one of you and buren themselves to such an extent that they have to sacrafice parts of their lives and probably their families. Not everyone is a hero or a hospital willing to take in every victim.

You scared the crap out of you teachers along with quite a few other kids in the class I can assume. You can't expect many people to acknolwedge every little detail for every single person when they people crying out are putting on a show most of the time.

That there is just plain selfish. Two wrongs don't make a right and blaming the teachers because of society(ha if that is truly the problem) is just plain foolish. Don't expect a hell of a lot in that situation, because you probably won't recieve anything. The kid who spoke about his or her problems and treated the teacher like a human being gets the attention. They always will.

rematche

well duh...think about it will ya.
money is the solution and the problem in this predicament..school officials didn't intervine because it will cost them money, a lot of money. since after all, school itself is a business establishment where it's source of income is the parents of children in the school. why the children do these things? again money. why? poverty.
even if the school didn't intervine, like now...money still get's involed. it went to the compliant namely the teacher.

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bratling

I agree with Pocketlint and Peach... This teacher should have A)known the environment that she was getting herself into... It's a well known fact that not a lot of teenage or younger kids MAKE FUN OF WHITE PEOPLE and clearly these kids KNEW which buttons to push with this teacher. dId these kids make these statments to aLL the teachers? Other students? I think it had nothing to do with racism in the end, just with tormenting the teacher.

And schools have enough problems with funding and shit like htat without some whiney pussy getting upset over some CHILDRENS words... what are you teaching for if you can't handle the bad with he good?

Miroku4444

If the roles were reversed would you say that?? DOnt think so. Why should she have to put up with these brats. Their the problem not her.

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equinn

ok if thats the thing i donno like hows it apart of there coltur to cuse at a woman

at my school we would peatcily get away with blue muder but cuseing in a teachers face calling him/her any of that
that would be a sisantion or exspelled for sure if i was that teacher i wouldnt of been long to hit one of them a slap lol but really from what happend before the 40's was then it dont mean the same now with people dose it ( maybe some) but in my inut i would have sad if thats t they shouldnt of let her work there

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Peach_follows

Brats! They're KIDS... they're not mental health professionals. They dont know the right way to outlet their anger! Thats what the teacher and school staff is their to help them learn! And bratling knows about what the deal is because she grew up the same place I did.

Shes just a teacher contributing to the problem. Make these kids feel low and unwanted, just filling them with more anger and hatred... Eventually just help fill our prisons with more African American people. Heh, at least its clear to see why the prisons are as such... you people are a perfect example of society and how you shun some freakin little kids.

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Tbaism

In some English-speaking countries, a public school is financed and operated by an agency of government which does not charge tuition fees; instead, financing is obtained through taxes or other government-collected revenues. This is in contrast to a private school (also known as an independent school). Here, the word "public" is used in the same sense as in "public library", that is, provided for the public at public expense. These public schools range in classes from kindergarten to four years of high school or secondary school, normally taking pupils up to the age of seventeen or eighteen...

...Given that most, if not all, public-school users benefit from government subsidies in attending public schools, thus incurring a lower cost (if any) to attend public schools than do their tuition-paying private-school counterparts to attend private schools, and given the existence, support for, and proliferation of private schools, at present it remains indeterminate whether public schools are a government entitlement program, or a feature of the welfare state. The issue is particularly contentious in the United States, where public-school curricula are fundamentally limited by principles of Constitutional law. - Wikipedia/subject: Public schools

I wonder if some of you knew this about public schools? Aside from attending private, slight increases in taxes are just about the only hard chunk of change that comes out of mommy and daddy's pocket. Even then, a majority vote is required by the populace of the village or town to raise or lower those taxes.

In other words, dragging a bunch of rotten kids into the auditorium and lecturing them for free, is far less costly than being sued for not taking any action what so ever. 200,000 dollars is what this woman recieved in the settlement. However way you want to look at it, that is not the most financially beneficial decision to make.

And by the way, it isn't a teachers job to be your best friend or savior. They are there to teach you and give you an education. If your class is being disruptive and not allowing you to properly fulfill the job requirements, that is a serious problem. When the students you are suppose to teach harrass you day after day, who can handle that? I am surprised she didn't get out the yard stick and start swinging. Then you talk to your boss and fellow co-works, and they say it is part of their culture? Who cares about society, they are saying it is part of the African American culture right?

By those terms, I can just assume that poverty, murder, rape, theft, gangs, and desperation comes with every black person that walks down the street. Way to sell out your people to the sterotype and take them down a notch after all the years of oppression. Ha, what a joke. That kind of crap is what makes a people in places like Missouri point their fringers and whisper at every passing black guy and/or mexican.

Are these kids so pathetic that every little thing is going to effect them? Has anyone actually been to a school and/or program that deals with these people? Has anyone ever noticed that most of them don't give up? You can beat them with bats and they will still say no. If kids are so useless today that they can't do a single thing for themselves even in some of the most desperate situations, than let them be. Either way, if they refuse to help themselves even with someone else willingly to pick up the slack, than be gone with them. You can't help people who don't want to be helped and refuse to do so. It doesn't matter if it is an act or not, sooner or later it will be too late.

bratling

First of all if the rolse were reversed I wouldn't have been a WHITE WOMAN in a predominately black school if I was sensitive to eb called WHITE... I mean really. I stand by what I said from any side of it. If she didn't want to deal with the shit she shouldn't have been teaching at an "urban" poverty stricken predominately black school Plain and simple she knew or should have known what she was getting into. Her problem not theirs. That's tHEIR school, their neighborhood, their society. SHE put herself in it, they didn't ASK the white woman to be their teacher. They didn't ask to be poor and angry. She was the one who had the option. Not them. She should have LEFT not sued the school. SHE was a problem in this instance just as much as they were. They are just societys problem, in general.

Tbaism

What kind of post is that? Sensative to being called white? Did you even read the articles?

"She faced a daily barrage of insults, had books and desks thrown at her, and her bycyle tires were being punctured as well" Even the students and other teachers were comming forth about the situation.

How does having desks, books, tires being punctured, and daily insults not strike you people as slightly odd? No how are those actions not seen as threatening to you? That is a bunch of crap if you think she did this because she was overly sensative. You don't file a lawsuit because a few students called you cracker or simply "WHITE".

Saying that "if roles were reversed" you wouldn't be a white woman teaching in a prodominant black school sounds quite cowardly to me. She is a teacher. Can anyone tell me if she was born in that state? How long she has lived in that state? If she had attended the school herself?

I hear a lot of talk about this, but they are opinions based on what exactly? It doesn't seem like a whole lot of people read the articles or researched a little into this.

It is funny how you say this became a problem or was only a problem because the woman was white. What does that sound like? I thought the blame was suppose to be on societies shoulders?