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We could very well be the reason for the Apocalypse. But not being a deeply religious person, I think it come down to evolution - survival of the fittest. I mean well..people jump up and down about saving animals that humans are bringing to extinction. Yet (and correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't one of Darwin laws 'survivals of the fittest', adapting to your surroundings? Really if the other animals can't adapt to humans, maybe it was just natures course for all this too happen - and perhaps all this destruction of the environment, is just natures course aswell? maybe that's how humans die out, the inability to adapt to the changing climate. Not saying that we shouldn't do anyhting about our environment, it was just a curious thought I had once ^_^;

I won't disagree with you (we might not have an effect on the planet), but there is one major thing here - how do we know we can't? Unless some one can't prove to me that humans have been on the planet before and have been pumping out CO2 like no tomorrow and other pollutants and had no effect - we just don't know what kind of effect we have on the planet as a whole. We know so little about this planet, it's hard to say what effect we really could be having on it

Why do we have it. Because we have greenish who think we have to save human kind. Not that disagree that it's all about money and power (because that it probably the only reason why governments and companies would start boasting green). But it has it's roots in people genuinely wanting to save the planet. It's because of the peoples demand in 'green' products and 'feeling good about themselves' did the corporate world realise that there is now money in it. And it is a sad thing that money is a good motivator.

and that is a classic example of governments not thinking right. Whatever scientist that told the government that these would be better solutions needs to be shot. Classic example really, quick bandaid solutions to make them look good and to be elected in next election, honestly need long term thinkers and, strong scientists who won't be bribed into make quick decision.

and as much as I hate to say it, but it is true what you say. And having done two years in Environmental studies I can see that - even in just two years. We as students are told what never to do when it comes to the environment and policy making - yet there are more 'experienced' 'scientists' and 'environmental ministers' who go ahead and do it any way. That what comes when the environment becomes a business, a way for governments to look good, companies to make money - they demand quick, cheap solutions and the pressure is puts on the scientists to perform that way.

I'd like to say it's the step in the right direction, but it's like one step forward then another 3 steps backwards.

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P.R. Princess

i think that we are speeding up the process not starting it. cause the earth will naturally warm up but by our actions and all the polution we are speeding up what was supposed to happen in like a couple hundred years.

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