Religion - Page 11

*Arrianna* · Feb 27, 2007, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressMorgan

So with the new claims of finding Jesus' tomb, where does that leave christianity? If he had a son doesnt that prove the bible wrong? (Please keep in mind that I dont know very much about what the bible says about Jesus). Does anyone know how this will effect religion?

Put simply it means squat. It's not even a new find. Someone just pulled it out and is making a film claiming it is all kinds of things not because there is any truth to it but because it will make him money.

Having a tomb labeled "son of Jesus" is meaningless as well since a)depending on which of two sects Jesus was raised in he would have had to be married anyway and b)that's like finding a tombstone in the US that says "Smith" or "Jones". Take your pick of thousands if not millions.

It happens all the time. We probably get a new documentary based on trash facts at least once a year. I wouldn't suggest wasting your time thinking about it unless you use it as a reason to go and research the actual culture and history at the time instead of the most recent hack job.

I just wish someone would write documentaries about what they actually do know without this shameful pandering. I know, I know, it wouldn't be controversial enough.

deodaclan18 · Feb 27, 2007, 06:47 PM

I'll also add this about the tomb,

"It has nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus, he was known as Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus of Jerusalem, and if the family was wealthy enough to afford a tomb, which they probably weren't, it would have been in Nazareth, not here in Jerusalem," he said."

Here's the rest of the article: kyw.com - Scholars Dismiss Jesus Documentary

Also, coolio, the whole thing about religion is faith. Of course it's gonna be hard and you will be tested, but the rewards will come to those who are truly faithful in the end. But it's your choice, that's one thing god gave us, freedom to choose wether we want to believe or not.

@arriana: Thanks for the quote. There is no way they can even prove that. It's just a way for cameron to make some money off religion.

Coolio9 · Feb 27, 2007, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The White Wolf

Well Coolio, I'm sorry you've had so many unfortunate events come your way. But I'm pretty sure it's not because of believing in God. I do believe in God and am Catholic. He's guided me through many things and helped me along the way. There is a higher force than us, in my opinion.

Thanks for replying, it means someone knows how i feel, and that means a lot to me.

Now, i don't blame these unfortunate events on "God", but it's the believing i had and then getting crushed that i do not like. God hasn't guided me at all. i'm not sure how he possibly could, unless he spoke to me, i'd be oblivious to him, which i am really. However, i do believe there is a higher force than us, and i agree with you on that. it's just i find it hard to submit yourself to something that you know nothing about. i don't understand how someone can relinquish their lives in the honor of something, that, hypothetically, might not even exist. the being unsure makes me uneasy about it.

maybe i'm just wierd though, like am i the only one who thinks this. Reply plz.

*Arrianna* · Feb 27, 2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolio9

Thanks for replying, it means someone knows how i feel, and that means a lot to me.

Now, i don't blame these unfortunate events on "God", but it's the believing i had and then getting crushed that i do not like. God hasn't guided me at all. i'm not sure how he possibly could, unless he spoke to me, i'd be oblivious to him, which i am really. However, i do believe there is a higher force than us, and i agree with you on that. it's just i find it hard to submit yourself to something that you know nothing about. i don't understand how someone can relinquish their lives in the honor of something, that, hypothetically, might not even exist. the being unsure makes me uneasy about it.

maybe i'm just wierd though, like am i the only one who thinks this. Reply plz.

No that makes you normal. I used to teach religion several years ago and you didn't say anything I haven't heard and more then once. Trust is a very difficult and personal thing be it in religion or in person.

@deodaclan: Thanks for the link. Now I'm dying to know just who or what the other tomb involved.

Quote:

This is the second time The Discovery Channel has been involved in a disputed claim about an ancient tomb, Phillips reports. The man at the center of the previous case is now facing trial for forgery.

Edit: How interesting. It appears that the forgery is supposed to have come from the exact same tomb they are discussing currently. It seems some people never learn.

neamia · Feb 27, 2007, 07:00 PM

hello.religion is based on the culture and history of where you came from.so why do people fight about it all the time. freedom of religion remember? help me out im lost.

*HolderOfTheDarkChalice* · Feb 27, 2007, 07:12 PM

religion has to many paradoxes to say which religion
is right or wrong just go with what you believe your
self becuase if you follow what others say or believe
you will be more lost than you were before you started.

my self i believe there is a god and there is a son and holy ghost
but god and the spirit are just figure heads like the pope or the
queen of England the sin is the one i believe will get you where you want
to be , but that's just my opinion since that's what i follow for my self.

*Arrianna* · Feb 27, 2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neamia

hello.religion is based on the culture and history of where you came from.so why do people fight about it all the time. freedom of religion remember? help me out im lost.

Freedom of religion means we are free to believe in our religion without government interference. It doesn't mean we have to agree. If you can't get 5 people to agree on what to put on a pizza why do you think 5 million or more will agree on anything else?

*lebasiara* · Feb 28, 2007, 09:20 AM

wooooooooow did thay found Jesus' bones?????

amaaaaa *yaaaaawn*aaaazing... Did they also found Jesus' appartment above the tomb

??? and the tv and everything else

??? wooooow, hmmm... so the tv is older than I thought it was... hahahahahahaha. That's a great job

!!!! Congrats and

a trophee to all those that "found" Jesus' bones. Good for them. OH! and tell me when they also find his "daughter" or "son" or whatever the davinci code says he had

...

It is amazing how for centuries ppl had tried to prove Jesus wrong, this is not something new, so I'm not surprised... In a couple years or more there are going to be "more discovers" but I don't care.... Believe it or not Jesus it self warned us about all this... and throughout the new testament (not only the 4 gospels) the men of God warned christians about false teachings and all the stuff that is happening... so as I said it is not a surprise... this instead makes me laugh.

This is what I think about the "NEW DISCOVER":

But I think you already have figure that out...

Soooo, hmmm, I am curious, what's next? Jesus used to play poker with His disciples

? and they found "the cards" with Jesus' DNA???
PLEASE!!!

baikuza · Mar 05, 2007, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrianna

Freedom of religion means we are free to believe in our religion without government interference. It doesn't mean we have to agree. If you can't get 5 people to agree on what to put on a pizza why do you think 5 million or more will agree on anything else?

that. now you said that arriana. appology me to said this.
we just need more tollerance so that we can bring our future to a better live.

we, in Indonesia, always advised by our master even now by our self only about the tollerance between everybody. if you ever try to go to Yogyakarta (D.I.Y. @ Indonesia) you may understand what i mean. because that's really crystalized inside the people here.

so, after all i think we just need to tollerate with other people. (^_^)

*Arrianna* · Mar 05, 2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baikuza

that. now you said that arriana. appology me to said this.
we just need more tollerance so that we can bring our future to a better live.

we, in Indonesia, always advised by our master even now by our self only about the tollerance between everybody. if you ever try to go to Yogyakarta (D.I.Y. @ Indonesia) you may understand what i mean. because that's really crystalized inside the people here.

so, after all i think we just need to tollerate with other people. (^_^)

Tolerance doesn't mean you agree either. It just means you don't try and force someone to agree with you. I do agree that tolerance is something we need more of however.

egyptianKitten137 · Mar 05, 2007, 04:31 PM

i belive there is only one God,and his name is jesus christ...

Feb 27, 2007, 06:47 PM	#112 (permalink)
deodaclan18 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,088 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Credits: 3,583	Re: Religion I'll also add this about the tomb, "It has nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus, he was known as Jesus of Nazareth, not Jesus of Jerusalem, and if the family was wealthy enough to afford a tomb, which they probably weren't, it would have been in Nazareth, not here in Jerusalem," he said." Here's the rest of the article: kyw.com - Scholars Dismiss Jesus Documentary Also, coolio, the whole thing about religion is faith. Of course it's gonna be hard and you will be tested, but the rewards will come to those who are truly faithful in the end. But it's your choice, that's one thing god gave us, freedom to choose wether we want to believe or not. @arriana: Thanks for the quote. There is no way they can even prove that. It's just a way for cameron to make some money off religion.
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HolderOfTheDarkChalice Tournaments Won: 1 King Of Darkness Join Date: May 2006 Location: someplace where the only light is the moon above Posts: 2,842 Thanks: 34 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts Credits: 5,730	Re: Religion religion has to many paradoxes to say which religion is right or wrong just go with what you believe your self becuase if you follow what others say or believe you will be more lost than you were before you started. my self i believe there is a god and there is a son and holy ghost but god and the spirit are just figure heads like the pope or the queen of England the sin is the one i believe will get you where you want to be , but that's just my opinion since that's what i follow for my self. __________________
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lebasiara Live and feel the music Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Here and there... Posts: 1,005 Thanks: 11 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts Credits: 17,113	Re: Religion wooooooooow did thay found Jesus' bones????? amaaaaa yaaaaawnaaaazing... Did they also found Jesus' appartment above the tomb ??? and the tv and everything else ??? wooooow, hmmm... so the tv is older than I thought it was... hahahahahahaha. That's a great job !!!! Congrats and a trophee to all those that "found" Jesus' bones. Good for them. OH! and tell me when they also find his "daughter" or "son" or whatever the davinci code says he had ... It is amazing how for centuries ppl had tried to prove Jesus wrong, this is not something new, so I'm not surprised... In a couple years or more there are going to be "more discovers" but I don't care.... Believe it or not Jesus it self warned us about all this... and throughout the new testament (not only the 4 gospels) the men of God warned christians about false teachings and all the stuff that is happening... so as I said it is not a surprise... this instead makes me laugh. This is what I think about the "NEW DISCOVER": But I think you already have figure that out... Soooo, hmmm, I am curious, what's next? Jesus used to play poker with His disciples ? and they found "the cards" with Jesus' DNA??? PLEASE!!! __________________ Awesome sig Yasmine ^_^ I appreciate it thank you very much ^_^ $C:\Documents and Settings\MARA\My Documents\My Pictures\Anime room\sigs\music_sig1 mia ^_^.jpg$ I wish for a hundred dollar bill rain...
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