Sazzy

i agree with Spymonk and sincere. they are both very well explained.

Religion is something where we shouldn't use it as an excuse for killing. Not only is not right but people are just using as a way out. as a christian my self, i admit i don't believe in everything the bible says. for some of it i disagree with as a person. but as previously stated, religions is a sense of control that some believe in to be the true way to life. But then without the religious control our self control would not be enough to help sustain a peaceful life because as humans we are easily pursuaded and weak at times so self control is not really enough. We look to guidence, seeking help from something that has the ablity to help. For some, religion is to help ease an unsettled mind.

As for the first post. my responce is that out off all of the stated times, there has been this one leader to whom, to my self seems corrupted and there for like previously stated, the followers them selves have been corrupted so there is a so called "kink" in the system because if someone kills someone in the name of religion, say Christianity, there is always going to be something in the bible saying different. Like the verse "Do to others as you would like them to do to you" (Luke 6:31).

Really is all about which parts of their religion believe in more strongly and the others they disagree with. So it co-incides with a persons point of view and how they see things.

However, i do strong disagree with killing to prove your religion. Not only do people get caught in the cross fire but the out come is usually ends with their death.

so in responce to your question.."do you still think religion is good? Why?". each religion has good and bad points, there is never a godly religion that is perfect.

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SuperDude22

My opinion, religion is just a band-aid to cover the wound.

!Shinobi-

religon it's bad like every thing else it is the poeple that have it and use it that can take it to far and do bad thing with it for the most part it is somthing that gives us hope. and reason to do good in the world

Chiefblackhammer

There is one big problem with your statement...RELIGION cannot kill anyone. It isn't a physical thing like a virus; only a belief structure and ultimately only PEOPLE can kill people. I understand by reading the rest of your statement to what you were actually referring to (which is that the real problem is people killing others in the “NAME” of religion).

I do not disagree with the fact that throughout history many millions have been slaughtered and tortured in the "NAME" of religion. However is it the religion that taught that or did a few elect take the religion form it into a perversion and then used the perversion as a means of backing for their own insane motives? And even if religion was not there could you really say that the events would not have still happened? (Hitler for example).

Yes, If you study any religion you can find a justification for murder (some are looser then others as to when this is acceptable) however NO religion teaches the blatant outright destruction of another without a cause (mainly self preservation, others could justify murder when it comes to something that is considered an abomination to their “god”, preservation of the kingdom such as that of Rome or revenge i.e. an eye for an eye.) Furthermore if you took religion out of the picture then do not our own laws give us a means for justification of murder for almost the same reasons?

BUT when it all boils down it is still the choice of the individual to take another’s life, to do “right” or to do “wrong”. I can see few reasons for it the act of killing another which would be acceptable but ultimately I have my own choice to make when it comes to it, I cannot hide behind religion or ever truly use it to justify my actions. It is my own choice. It is a matter of ethics not religion and frankly ethics is like an opinion, it is all in the eye of the beholder. What is right to me may not be right to you, thus we have things like religion and laws to guide us to “acceptable behavior” within society in an effort to prevent chaos.

Now it is easy to point at instances in history and say “wrong” or “right” but you weren’t there and can’t say that you would have done things differently. Nor can you say that religion as a whole is a bad thing because people in the past have taken it and done what you consider “wrong” with it. I for one follow a particular religion and have done NOTHING that would constitute or be considered immoral or unlawful but by your definition I am just as guilty as those in the past because I follow the same right?

You ask how religion is a good thing. I say it is because it is the reason for which I am whom I am. Now I say to you, how is that a bad thing?


On a side note very good topic, I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts

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ConradGuravitch103

see the religion gives a bunch of people the "right" to do somthing out in the name of a god, and you see that if you have no religion like me you cant ave a goo reason to kill on a grand scale, in the name of god. the only things would be to either to get a really big point across selfishly IMO or if somthing that happend like the Holocaust i think, maybe offensive sorry, but that wasnt done in the name of religion.

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tammyemily303308

Well religion is good it tells u your family history or where your family came from.

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rockroc

No Religion isnt bad, It never has been, but the Catholics slaughtered non beleivers and anyone who didnt follow the church in the 18-19 centurys.

Im a very big beleiver in Jesus and am from the Holliness branch of christianity

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kedar

Chief-sami beat me to it, and gave a clear rebuttal! ^_^
Hahah! First of all, what does it mean to be religious? Strictly speaking, most of those who are considered religious aren't religious, rather are just a bunch of hypocrites ~!! That's the way I see it. If one sincerely respects the principles of the Divine God and clearly understands them without misinterpretation, and put them to practice, then one will surely become divine - good in nature.

Just try to practice what you learnt.

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Chiefblackhammer

How is severe Anti-Semitism shown by a country and its government considered an act of religion? Frankly Hitler just used the Jews to fuel Germany's hate. He could have just as easily used the French given the animosity they have for each other, the fact was it was easier to use the Jews since they were already in the country in large numbers.

Now like I said just because people miss-use something doesn't mean that something is wrong. Furthermore the removal of that something doesn't mean the action of “wrong doing” will be foregone. Just because they use so called "religion" as there justification doesn't mean if they lacked a "religion" to use that they would not still commit the same crimes.

Australia took away private gun ownership in 2001 to reduce crime and violence and in return, the crime rate has steadily risen....why? Guns don't kill, people do. You can argue that guns make it easier and I will state if you want to do it then ease doesn't matter...you will find a way and the rate and number of crimes proves it. Religion is no different. EVERYTHING YOU DO YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO DO IT. Stop blaming others and take the responsibility for it yourself already.

Here is a link to crime stats for Australia from the Australian Government.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/f...rdedCrime.html

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Dark.

Religion is totally not bad. Without religion, man in the beginning of times and even now would not have faith, and therefore society as we know it may never have progressed as far as it has. You have to look at the bigger picture when you talk about the crusades. And that is the politics. War is usually a political agenda which involves getting land for living on or land for it's valuable resources. (i.e. oil, farmland, bays, etc.) However people do not want to fight just so their government can widen their boundaries, they have to have a motive to drive them to fight. What better cause to fight for than that of the divine? From this perspective, using religion as a motive to rally troops to fight is genius. However due to war's immorality, it leaves its combatants in a loss of faith. Which naturally leads to question if their ways are truly sacred. That, I think, is where people sometimes get the idea that religion is bad; when it's used to push a political agenda unto it's innocent followers.

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Dark wolf

believe it or not i found out they sort of enslaved my people when we were leaving free people

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