kakashi_sensei

Yes, I have. I remember something about the theory of evolution, that says we come from monkeys hahaha funny.

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psychical

I've studied evolution, though my memory fails me right now. I'm sure that by now, evolution would seem to be more plausible than creation accounts, but I don't see the connection between evolution and "no God". If there is, it's not very clear to me. Could you explain this please?

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LichGRIFFIN

Well ,the religion didn't descend on the whole world as a single same thing (or even the time pattern) ,and i didn't implying that it is "absolute truth" but as you said subjective truth that various for each individual.

That's true and that's why we seek the most that we are convinced with and it leads to satisfaction rather than suffering and confusion in most cases ,what i mean i'm a muslim and both of us have different views on the religion but that doesn't mean you're suffering because i see you're following a false truth?! (no offence i mean as an example ,i do respect other religions but believe in mine more than any)

But no one actually follows an absolute truth because there isn't any anyway.

That's right ,also possible ,that's what i was telling basilisk888
What?

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kakashi_sensei

Well, from my understanding, people who believe in the theory of evolution do not believe there's a god or something superior than humans. But if monkeys did really evolve into humans, why don't they now? there are a lot questions that come to mind. i guess we'll never find out our roots completely.

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azureflame

Religion is a load of bullsh*t, god doesnt exist. This is because, if he is so high and f***ing mighty. Why is there pain< suffering< diseaese< and imperfection. If he has the power to stand above and judge us all< then why in the hell wouldnt he fix all the wrongdoings in the world!?!?!?!?

psychical

So you're saying that if people believe in evolution, then it follows that they don't believe in God, right? But I believe evolution to be likely, and I'm not ashamed to say I believe in God as well. And there are others who say that God created life using evolution and natural selection. Evolution as a theory doesn't seem to exclude the possibility of there being no God at all. How do you account for that?

We both agree that there are a lot of questions that remain unanswered. But do you suppose it would be better to find out if they could be answered or not? We just can't dismiss a question as "unanswerable" simply because others haven't answered them yet.

azureflame, are you flaming, or are you serious on this one?

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LichGRIFFIN

And also why don't humans evolve into something more? that's why i don't believe this theory and go after the creation since there are more and more things that science couldn't and won't be able to grasp an understanding of.

Well because this's life and since you have no idea about it don't go around insulting all people who don't see from your point of view and be a little more civilized.

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kakashi_sensei

Well usually they believe in one or the other. The theory of evolution doesn't necessarily say that there is no God. However, the bible gives another explanation on how things happened. So based on this, in can be assumed that the theory of evolution doesn't believe in a superior being.
I think it would be great if all these questions were one day to be answered, but even if we do get an answer there's no possible way we can say it is true, since we haven't seen or experience the facts.

That's true! if we have been constantly evolving, why don't we keep going?

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psychical

Dude, so you're saying that

(a) The theory of evolution doesn't necessarily say there is no God,

BUT

(b) But the Bible says things in another way (that is, God created the heavens and the earth in a week's time),

THEREFORE

(c) The theory of evolution doesn't believe in a superior being... ????????

My apologies, friend, but your argument doesn't add up at all. Just because the Bible says things in another way doesn't mean that there is no superior being at all. I suppose you were being a bit too hasty there.

Here, let me help you with these two questions:

(1) Could you show me where exactly in his scientific books did Charles Darwin explicitly exclude the possibility of there being a God in his theory?

(2) Could it not be that the Jews of ancient times, not having any access to the scientific knowledge and advancements we have today, decided to explain the origins of the universe in parable form? (Recall that not everything in the Hebrew Bible should be taken literally... That was just the way people used figures of speech back in the day).

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Descended From Darkness

First of all your arguement is invalid. I'm Catholic and I believe in the theory of evolution. There are two types of evolution. Microevolution and macroevolution. For you to say that evolution mainly says that you evolve from monkies is wrong. Microevolution is what we are going through now. Look at how fetuses grow. Loot at how we grow from 1 month to 75 years old. Look at how our brains develop and grow that is microevolution at work. We did not just appear at our present height and age. We did not just start speaking. Everything is a process. Macroevolution is what you are talking about. But like I said, it is a process you can't something to appear quickly out of thin air. We are continually evolving, its a slow process again don't expect things to happen quickly. Look at our level of technology from the time Before Christ and After Dominion and tell me that we aren't continually evolving.

If evolution isn't going on then please by all means explain to me why there are little chimpanzees in the wild building and using their own utensils. Please I would like to know.

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basilisk888

wow... I was gone for about not even a day and this chat has gone beserk...
well the reason that you do not see evolution is because it only happnes after a long period of time! You in your short life can't see it in monkies! You will never see it in anything really big... And we are evolving after every generation. And (not happy to say this but...) well you can believe in both "god" and evolution. look at "romeo and juliet" well the holy man in that story puts into factor both science and "god"... In a respect he is more mature than anyone in this.
and azureflame plz stop with the foul words its anoying...

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