Religion, is it true? - Page 19

hedgehog666 · May 15, 2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wingzeroty

lol exactly and srry to stray off subject for a second, you guys should see hedgehog666 type. he looks like a 5 year old typing, its hilarious, ok back to being serious, to argue the point of religion being true is to force my reason into even higher actualization.

how can u believe that religion is true well its ur belief i guess buy come on religion is made up and should be mixed up to one or forgotten about completly well that is my opinion and very funny ty

PhoenixSara · May 15, 2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hedgehog666

how can u believe that religion is true well its ur belief i guess buy come on religion is made up and should be mixed up to one or forgotten about completly well that is my opinion and very funny ty

Hedge historically all across history whether they call it pagans or what ever belief religion has always existed in one form or another. Yes it is true that science contradicts some of the things that are said relion wise. but have you even thought that behind all that logic there must be some higher power who designed what we have today? As far back as ancient egypt they called Ra their God and i can't count the big names in history who did things in the name of religion and belief. so i am just baffled that religion is a made up thing.

hedgehog666 · May 15, 2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixSara

Hedge historically all across history whether they call it pagans or what ever belief religion has always existed in one form or another. Yes it is true that science contradicts some of the things that are said relion wise. but have you even thought that behind all that logic there must be some higher power who designed what we have today? As far back as ancient egypt they called Ra their God and i can't count the big names in history who did things in the name of religion and belief. so i am just baffled that religion is a made up thing.

ok u make a good point but how did religion come to be someone had to make it up in somepoint in time . guess one humanity needs to create a time machine and find all the facts out and see how eeveything came together

basilisk888 · May 15, 2008, 02:17 PM

wingzeroty, if you are not going to sqay something smart say nothing... you are getting on my nerves....

ok if you are just posting here (new people) in the last two pages read up on whats been already said...

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ok u make a good point but how did religion come to be someone had to make it up in somepoint in time . guess one humanity needs to create a time machine and find all the facts out and see how eeveything came together

but they haven't made one have they? so thats why we are able to talk about it.

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Hahahaha i think Hedgehog666 and I finished off this little discussion. hahaha and i have the last say hedge.

that was a useless post...

basilisk888 · May 15, 2008, 04:38 PM

just looking around on you-tube and I found a intresting vid. it relates to this thread a little bit so here it is: YouTube - Atheist Life vs Religious Life yep yep hope you like

(I know this is a double post but I think for this thread it is inportant)

*atomik_sprout* · May 15, 2008, 05:09 PM

The way I see it, if there is a god, then there is. If there isn't, there isn't. I used to think there is a god, but lately, I simply don't worry about it. I believe that humans shouldn't use religion as a crutch to make their lives better. Were there such a deity that was capable of providing peace, love, understanding and happiness then we'd all be on cloud nine, without a care in the world.

One shouldn't use religion as a way to escape reality or to make his/her self think that life will be magically better when they've accepted and worshiped a god or prophet or whatever... Religion provides good teachings and teaches a general rule of respecting one's fellow man and so on. But, under no circumstance should religion or a belief in a god blur your vision or distort your focus on reality.

Is it true? Maybe. That's not for me to tell. Does it teach good, wholesome moral values? Yes! Should anyone let religion blind them? NO!

LichGRIFFIN · May 15, 2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by atomik_sprout

The way I see it, if there is a god, then there is. If there isn't, there isn't. I used to think there is a god, but lately, I simply don't worry about it. I believe that humans shouldn't use religion as a crutch to make their lives better. Were there such a deity that was capable of providing peace, love, understanding and happiness then we'd all be on cloud nine, without a care in the world.

One shouldn't use religion as a way to escape reality or to make his/her self think that life will be magically better when they've accepted and worshiped a god or prophet or whatever... Religion provides good teachings and teaches a general rule of respecting one's fellow man and so on. But, under no circumstance should religion or a belief in a god blur your vision or distort your focus on reality.

Is it true? Maybe. That's not for me to tell. Does it teach good, wholesome moral values? Yes! Should anyone let religion blind them? NO!

Religion was never meant to blind anyone from reality actually as much as i'm concerned Religion always helped me see reality in even a better way ...

gamemaster331 · May 15, 2008, 09:55 PM

I agree with Lich. Once I found the religion that made sense to me, it's help me grow mentally and spiritually. It really doesn't matter what religion you follow, if any, as long as you're growing. Religion helps us explain the things around us that can't be explained in any other way. It helps us make sense of our lives. And, believe it or not, there are some of us who don't follow it blindly, but rather with our eyes open pondering theological questions as they spring up.

PhoenixSara · May 16, 2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LichGRIFFIN

Religion was never meant to blind anyone from reality actually as much as i'm concerned Religion always helped me see reality in even a better way ...

I also agree with Lich on this, religion can be scientific and to those who can't i will start looking for a website that relates both. as i said on the other thread. the people who found religion from my perspective and made them stronger (based on people i know) they are the most logical and intellectual and intellegent people i know so those who think that those who believe religion is true are just a bunch of fanatics then maybe you need to rethink your lives and how you discriminate is well something you need to think about. (sorry i also hate people who discriminate along with drunk drivers)

Zatoichi · May 16, 2008, 08:37 AM

I believe that there has to be something out there but nothing we now of. religion is stupid to put a god before yourself in HOPE that there is something after is ubsurd I believe religions true purpose is to leave a guidline on how to live your life. also I'm Buhhidist

NeoDeath90 · May 16, 2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by psychical

Hiya, guys! Welcome to basilisk888's religion thread. I take it you're probably new, so let me make a few suggestions:

1) When you debate, you don't go around ticking others off. You argue. Not the way mom and dad do when they're mad at each other, or when you and big sis get in each other's hair, but kinda like the way the debate team does it. The point is not to offend other people (though they might get offended), but to see whether an idea holds water or not.

2) Interesting point. Though whether his point's valid or not, that remains to be seen. Stick around and we'll see.

3) "Imagine no religion"... And then there'll be lasting peace and happiness. And then maybe people will stop killing each other. Is that what you're driving at, buddy?

I can't discuss this with you right now, so for the meantime, I'd like to introduce you to prominent atheist Joseph Stalin.

Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

4) Not mad. Annoyed is probably more like it. Could you please post more argumentatively? And read up more on facts? Your way of posting kinda reminds me of the way trolls post. Not that I'm calling you a troll, but... You understand.

Oh, a word of advice to you two:

Don't
Change
The
Subject
Just
Yet.

It's confusing when people keep doing that. So please, for goodness' sake -- don't.

I'm sure Arrianna would be more than happy to discuss issues related to the topic. But don't stray to far from what we have at hand, capische?

Back to you, basilisk888 and Arrianna.

christ almighty, that sounded angry. lighten up a little, wouldja?

anyway, imagine no religion? hmmm, i'm imagining more and more vile things doen to people than if there was a religion to set us straight.

sure there would be no "Holy" wars, but i personally believe there would be more war and more violence. at least religion gives us some insight on how we should behave.

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Originally Posted by wingzeroty

ok to end all this discussion. no religion is not true. its what a bunch of old people who's loved ones left them to enjoy life and younger mates. so to all you old people Shut Up. were tired of hearing yoru crap. and taking up our time and making the hottest looking girls go to church. you selfish old bastards.

please stay on topic and try not to sound like a complete a$$

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Originally Posted by wingzeroty

lol exactly and srry to stray off subject for a second, you guys should see hedgehog666 type. he looks like a 5 year old typing, its hilarious, ok back to being serious, to argue the point of religion being true is to force my reason into even higher actualization.

don;t you think that was a little bit uncalled for? leave the guy alone.

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atomik_sprout Ramen Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 2,028 Thanks: 43 Thanked 55 Times in 51 Posts Credits: 85,184	Re: Religion, is it true? The way I see it, if there is a god, then there is. If there isn't, there isn't. I used to think there is a god, but lately, I simply don't worry about it. I believe that humans shouldn't use religion as a crutch to make their lives better. Were there such a deity that was capable of providing peace, love, understanding and happiness then we'd all be on cloud nine, without a care in the world. One shouldn't use religion as a way to escape reality or to make his/her self think that life will be magically better when they've accepted and worshiped a god or prophet or whatever... Religion provides good teachings and teaches a general rule of respecting one's fellow man and so on. But, under no circumstance should religion or a belief in a god blur your vision or distort your focus on reality. Is it true? Maybe. That's not for me to tell. Does it teach good, wholesome moral values? Yes! Should anyone let religion blind them? NO! __________________ Kickin' it like a soccer player!
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gamemaster331 Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ashtabula, Ohio, USA Posts: 446 Thanks: 21 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts Credits: 15,094	Re: Religion, is it true? I agree with Lich. Once I found the religion that made sense to me, it's help me grow mentally and spiritually. It really doesn't matter what religion you follow, if any, as long as you're growing. Religion helps us explain the things around us that can't be explained in any other way. It helps us make sense of our lives. And, believe it or not, there are some of us who don't follow it blindly, but rather with our eyes open pondering theological questions as they spring up. __________________ "What part of Evil don't you undersand?" "Come to the Dork side!"
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Zatoichi Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: lawrence mi Posts: 21 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Credits: 693	Re: Religion, is it true? I believe that there has to be something out there but nothing we now of. religion is stupid to put a god before yourself in HOPE that there is something after is ubsurd I believe religions true purpose is to leave a guidline on how to live your life. also I'm Buhhidist
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