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Old Apr 17, 2008, 09:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

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I'm a theist, so it's good to know that we now have some common ground, you and I. Let's be good friends, shall we?

I can't help but agree with you there that SOME (but not ALL) Christians use their faith to big up themselves (e.g. politicians, televangelists, etc.). That's actually un-Christianly, if you look at what Christianity actually stands for.

Anyways, back to the subject of believing. Let's put religious texts such as the Quran and the Bible aside for now; we might get back to those later, should the need arise. So you believe in God (or a god, or gods), and your friends are pagans. Tell me, my friend, why do they believe in what they believe in? Just curious


My friends believe in the pagan religions (yes I said religions..there is more than one pagan religion) because many of them believe that the Earth is great and wonderful. That nature is God and Goddess and that they respect nature. Another reason for them believing (I would think) is because some of them have been Christian and some of the views held by other Christians and the religious text have rubbed them the wrong way. (for example my friend is a lesbian and it says that homosexuality is a sin but slavery is okay.)
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 12:29 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

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this is a touchy subject with many people but I have to go there... Does a greater being exsists??? DO you think that there is a "God" or something out there? Do you really go into a "better" place after death??? Or is that something that some people want you to believe??? Is it all true ask yourself taht are we created in an instent; are we a doll form to something bigger? Do we even live? Are we "alive"????? Do we have the right to destroy the homes of animals that do not have a say in it all??? What if one day a dog with a knife just felt like stabing you because what the humans are doing to the earth??? How whould you like it??? Will we all die at 2012??? will we all cease to exsist at that time??? How will we live or die; how will we be killed?? Slowly or in a instent?????

(not trying to offend really anyone with this but think about it and reply plz)

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First,I want you to ask yourself a question:where did god concept came from?
from that you can see that god is known from his prophets who he sent to us to worship him,from the begining of mankind till know;eventhough many people don't belive in god
So you see that I really belive in god with all my confidence
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Do you really go into a "better" place after death??? Or is that something that some people want you to believe???
everyone after death is going to be judged then we'll go to either heaven or hell
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Do we even live? Are we "alive"?????
We are alive & I belive that life here in this universe is a big test for all of us & real life is after we die either in heaven or hell(you choose!)
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Do we have the right to destroy the homes of animals that do not have a say in it all??? ???
I have a question about this:Why would we destroy their homes?just for fun?!
every thing is made here for a reason,even things which we don't find a use in it exists for a reason(think if the animals just as you say felt like stabing you just because you're no use for them what would you feel?)
We live in here to construct & Preserve the earth not to sabotage it.
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Will we all die at 2012??? will we all cease to exsist at that time???
no one knows when will we die or will we exist,even if whatever can't we live after that?
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How will we live or die; how will we be killed?? Slowly or in a instent?????
no one knows about the future,& it depends upon the way you are killed,even if you die while you're sitting down,sleeping...without no reason I think that there will always be pain(for your soul will be pulled out your body!)
I hope now that I've helped in your questions
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 04:24 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

Everyone is always attached to the subject of religion... maybe its just because they want meaning in their life or are trying to find meaning. I honestly do not believe in higher beings I believe you are just there, theres no fancy person making you or anything it just happens and then you live your life do as you please and then you die and theres the end to your life's story.

As for the 2012 end of the world theory you have a better chance of the earth exploding from an alien species then it ending on a date the Myains believed to be the end of the world... they worshiped the sun and nothing can be good from doing that.

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Thats a touchy subject of sophilism, yes we are alive I've thought about it quite the bit no mind is this complex that we could imagine a fake reality you'd be like a super computer.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

Yes i belive that we atr made by god and that he is real and we are made on this earth to serve him.
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 05:57 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

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My friends believe in the pagan religions (yes I said religions..there is more than one pagan religion) because many of them believe that the Earth is great and wonderful. That nature is God and Goddess and that they respect nature. Another reason for them believing (I would think) is because some of them have been Christian and some of the views held by other Christians and the religious text have rubbed them the wrong way. (for example my friend is a lesbian and it says that homosexuality is a sin but slavery is okay.)
Hi again, DFD! Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, and I'm sorry I had to reply just now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reasons for believing that you've given me so far -- because of great reverence for nature, because of opposition to Christianity -- are subjective (that is, they depend on your own experiences, ideas, and perspectives rather than the nature of the object of your belief), which are good, albeit personal, reasons to believe.

Now let's take the argument a bit further. Could you help my curiosity again, and tell me this time not why they believe it is true, but what is it about their religion that makes it true, regardless of whether people believe in it or not, or whether people know about it at all?
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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:11 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: Religon, is it true?

It really doesnt matter if it is true or not it is more of a faith thing. So there is no way that you can say that it is right or wrong people beleave what they want to. And beleaving that there is a higher power makes people have hope after life. Cause me personaly i dont like it when people are like we become a tree or somthing like that. Cause that in my opinion would suck i lived this life as a human and now i am a tree that is great i had thumbs as a human what do i have as a tree roots that hold me down. i would ratherr beleave in a higher power cause that give us hope and things to look forward to in the futher. And what i have seen personaly you are not afaid to die when you beleave in god or somthing else cause you know you are going to a better place when you leave this world. So there is no way you can say is it true it is all a matter of who has the faith and who does not beleave.
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Re: Religon, is it true?

lol this whole post is so FUNNY!!! hehehehehehe this is so funny because this conversation with you all is point less. This has not point! I can't change what you think and you cann't change what I think. Wuhahahahahahahahaha ^.^
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Re: Religon, is it true?

i believe that there is one supremem being higher than us. i really don't know about the orders but helps ,me since life is not all happy thoughts like in neverland. but i do believe in a higher being called God. i think Faith in a higher being helps us all and who else would put us in this world but not one who is higher than us. we just didn' come to be.
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Re: Religon, is it true?

did you not really read what I said this was meaning-less it had not point! It was just made to get people thinking! It wasn't a really good topic I oppoligize for the people who were offened by these posts and other wise
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lol this whole post is so FUNNY!!! hehehehehehe this is so funny because this conversation with you all is point less. This has not point! I can't change what you think and you cann't change what I think. Wuhahahahahahahahaha ^.^
Dude! You didn't say your opinon about this article,so Do you belive in god?!
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lol this whole post is so FUNNY!!! hehehehehehe this is so funny because this conversation with you all is point less. This has not point! I can't change what you think and you cann't change what I think. Wuhahahahahahahahaha ^.^

We can't change ,that's right ... but we can see and acknowledge other's opinions that we're not aware about ...
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