Religion, is it true? - Page 9

basilisk888 · May 07, 2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

The word "Fight" was ,is and will be sticked with humans as long as they live ,humans hearts are constituted of evil and good ,no one is pure of only one of them and no one can change that fact.

well yes but I think I used the wroung word well not like "fighting" like with fists but more with ideas and words... (sometimes not...)

Quote:

No ,i don't think so ,all fights around the world goes around two things ... the first is religion the second is rebellion and occupiers (greed in one of its various shapes) ... that's what i think.

would you think wars as fights? if true then there is also "fights" for things that people think is right and true (but mostly what you just said)

Quote:

Religion is true and it has truth that is for each single individual believing in a religion around the globe .. it's not the religion that matters but how much you believe in it and give to protect.

I can see what your getting at but nothing in this world is "pure" so why sould religon be "pure" there might be some or most things in religons that are good things to try to do but you can never have something that is "pure"
(also if you must know not everyone believes in it...)

*LichGRIFFIN* · May 07, 2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

well yes but I think I used the wroung word well not like "fighting" like with fists but more with ideas and words... (sometimes not...)

would you think wars as fights? if true then there is also "fights" for things that people think is right and true (but mostly what you just said)

some children cooperating to forcibly take a toy from another in a kindergarten is a war .. it's small but it is .. fights generate war which is only the total mess of them .. people defend and fight for those two purposes everyone seeing his/her own as the righteous truth that the other must follow ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

I can see what your getting at but nothing in this world is "pure" so why sould religon be "pure" there might be some or most things in religons that are good things to try to do but you can never have something that is "pure"
(also if you must know not everyone believes in it...)

because we do believe it is ,it is pure .. though i was talking about "true" there ..

basilisk888 · May 07, 2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

some children cooperating to forcibly take a toy from another in a kindergarten is a war .. it's small but it is .. fights generate war which is only the total mess of them .. people defend and fight for those two purposes everyone seeing his/her own as the righteous truth that the other must follow ...

well you can't really pit the ideas of little kids to mature adults... (not that fair) there is not only two things that people fight for... There can be others reasons that they think is true...

Quote:

because we do believe it is ,it is pure .. though i was talking about "true" there ..

oh well I think that we will not come to an agree ment... but here it goes:
-nothing can be "true"
-nothing can be "pure"
you can believe what you think is "pure" but just know that not all people agree with you...

*LichGRIFFIN* · May 07, 2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

well you can't really pit the ideas of little kids to mature adults...

Of course we can it's not like we were born in an instant anyway ,those ideas are the starters ,it's natural selfishness here but it's the root that no one can avoid ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

(not that fair) there is not only two things that people fight for... There can be others reasons that they think is true...

for example?

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

oh well I think that we will not come to an agree ment... but here it goes:
-nothing can be "true"
-nothing can be "pure"
you can believe what you think is "pure" but just know that not all people agree with you...

God is pure ,God is true ... and of course not all people would agree with me or you ,isn't that's why we were created with a free will?

basilisk888 · May 07, 2008, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Of course we can it's not like we were born in an instant anyway ,those ideas are the starters ,it's natural selfishness here but it's the root that no one can avoid ...

I agree that the human nature is neather evil or good but it tends to be more evil...

Quote:

for example?

their country, their honor, hope, ect.

Quote:

God is pure ,God is true ... and of course not all people would agree with me or you ,isn't that's why we were created with a free will?

we all have free will and no one can take that form people (well in most cases...) so I can have my ideas about this and you can have your ideas about this... (nothing is pure...)

*LichGRIFFIN* · May 07, 2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

I agree that the human nature is neather evil or good but it tends to be more evil...

No ,not always ,it's just one of the paths a human can take.

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

their country, their honor, hope, ect.

Isn't this the second reason i mentioned? (rebellion and occupiers) ,"hope" of what? there are different types you know and mostly connected to either your religion directly or indirectly like being "optimist" or connected to the second reason hope in freedom ,hope in a happy life or even hope in having hope ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

we all have free will and no one can take that form people (well in most cases...) so I can have my ideas about this and you can have your ideas about this... (nothing is pure...)

This is this and that is that ... "pure" doesn't mean all the globe accepts it as an ultimate fact.

basilisk888 · May 07, 2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

No ,not always ,it's just one of the paths a human can take.

well you can be good or evil or somewere in the middle.

Quote:

Isn't this the second reason i mentioned? (rebellion and occupiers) ,"hope" of what? there are different types you know and mostly connected to either your religion directly or indirectly like being "optimist" or connected to the second reason hope in freedom ,hope in a happy life or even hope in having hope ...

but what about civil wars? were does that fall?

Quote:

This is this and that is that ... "pure" doesn't mean all the globe accepts it as an ultimate fact.

never said "pure" in that context... mybe I said another bad word... when I ment "pure" I ment perfect...

psychical · May 07, 2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

lol this whole post is so FUNNY!!! hehehehehehe this is so funny because this conversation with you all is point less. This has not point! I can't change what you think and you cann't change what I think. Wuhahahahahahahahaha ^.^

That's because we haven't really agreed on terms or initial premises yet. So are you here to debate or are you here to troll? Get serious, for your own sake.

basilisk888 · May 07, 2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychical

That's because we haven't really agreed on terms or initial premises yet. So are you here to debate or are you here to troll? Get serious, for your own sake.

>.< you have not been reading any of the posts so far have you? well in one of them I'm serious now... (read before you post)

*LichGRIFFIN* · May 07, 2008, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

but what about civil wars? were does that fall?

Huh?! do you even have to think about it? ,some for the first reason and some for the second depending on the motivation starting it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

never said "pure" in that context... mybe I said another bad word... when I ment "pure" I ment perfect...

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilisk888

I can see what your getting at but nothing in this world is "pure" so why sould religon be "pure" there might be some or most things in religons that are good things to try to do but you can never have something that is "pure"
(also if you must know not everyone believes in it...)

I guess you said that one of these days

basilisk888 · May 08, 2008, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Huh?! do you even have to think about it? ,some for the first reason and some for the second depending on the motivation starting it.

yes I did thank you very much; civil war...

Quote:

never said "pure" in that context... mybe I said another bad word... when I ment "pure" I ment perfect...

Quote:

I guess you said that one of these days

but it was in place of perfect...

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Is Religion Necessary?	Tetsanosuke Kirikami	Debate and Discuss	170	Dec 10, 2007 02:20 PM
True Feelings About A True Person....	equinn	Poems	4	Jul 29, 2007 02:42 PM
True Name True Power -- Tarot Method, Ancient truth with a twist	darkness of an angel	Cyber Lounge	0	Apr 24, 2007 11:30 AM
Religion	kedar	The Vault	66	Feb 26, 2006 02:26 PM
religion	Wing 0	The Vault	19	Sep 15, 2005 10:10 AM

Welcome to AnimeOnline.net, your personal Anime Community!	Anime Online Rulez!