sacred or social?

dustin scott · Feb 16, 2008, 10:53 AM

ok, so here is my question. is sex still considered "sacred" or is it more "social" in todays society? please explain what you think about it in detail and explain why.

personally, i feel sex has become more social in todays society to an extent. yea, we still ridicule people if they go out and sleep with everyone they see (well, not everybody... tends to apply more to women than men because men seem to think sleeping with more women is some sort of an accomplishment while most women tend to consider monogamy to be more admirable) but the idea of sex has become less than sacred in todays society because it's more widely accepted as social behavior. here are some examples.

in the 1950's sex was still considered sacred in the idea that it wasn't considered "ok" to have sex before marriage where as in todays society, most men lose their virginity between 13 and 15 and most women lose their virginity between 17 and 20. i dont know many 13 or 15 year old boys who're married let alone many 17 year old girls.

another key fact, whore houses where considered "taboo" in the 1950's (to an extent) but in today's society we have 2 or 3 strip clubs in most cities if not more.

also, in the 1950's it was considered "taboo" to show skin and clevage where in todays society it's practically considered "odd" if a woman doesn't show a little skin. there are a great deal of examples showing how society has changed sex into a social activity as opposed to a sacred bond between lovers like it used to be.

what do you think? is sex sacred or has society changed it into more of a social activity?

!The GunGrave of Trigun · Feb 16, 2008, 11:31 AM

Well im social im the funny guy im not the class clown where you do stupid things to make people laugh no i tell jokes im just going around trying things hanging out all do almost anything.

dustin scott · Feb 16, 2008, 11:37 AM

i think you kinda missed the point in the main post. but it's good to knwo you consider yourself social. i on the other hand am quite the opposite. i'm more antisocial... a least in person. online or on the phone i'm a chatter box but if i dont know you in person... quiet as a mouse.

!The GunGrave of Trigun · Feb 16, 2008, 12:34 PM

Im the opposite of you then i use the phone computer i go out to places with friends mall movies

!Akura13 · Feb 16, 2008, 12:39 PM

Meh, both of you don't relize what he's asking. He's asking if sex is sacred or social, not if you are or not. I think it's starting to become more of a social thing and a "look who's cooler" thing now a days. It used to be so sacred, but no one ever thinks of that anymore. I still think it's sacred, not for show like most people do. It's sad that they've made it a popularity contest. So, oevrall, I think it has deffinatly become more social...

!The GunGrave of Trigun · Feb 16, 2008, 01:36 PM

You Mean just me its the same guy and sorry i was thinking complete differnt and but yes into 2000 sex has become social but i think it should be sacred.

lebasiara · Feb 16, 2008, 06:53 PM

For some people sex is the most and highest expression of love and therefore is the most sacred thing you can give. That's what I think.
But if we see in today's society sex is a matter of "having fun" I mean, a party is "no fun" if it does not have sex and alcohol involved. I mean, look at the movies... the 85% of the movies present sex as the way that a man tells a woman (and viceversa) I like you...
Sex has become a social object (shamefully), today one can have sex-buddies... and yet not "feel" anything for them...
For me it is a very sacred act that involves not only your body but also involves your soul, mind, emotions and all of you.

Peach_follows · Feb 16, 2008, 06:55 PM

Hmmm. I think sex has become just like shaking hand to many people. But with that said, one can still decide... even after making mistakes.... to go back to keeping sex sacred, intimate, and special. Infact, I think (speaking from my own experience) that you dont fully learn to appreciate that sacredness. Unless you've already allowed some one to dissrespect it. Once you make mistakes.... you can truely learn to stop be careless, and start respecting the most beautiful part of you.

I have certainly had my moments when I didnt care what (or who) I was doing. 2 kids later... I have decided to hold off on sex. its been over 3 years and I've only had sex once.
And even that one time proved to be a mistake (someone I loved, didn't love me back). But... holding out made me value myself so much more. It used to be fairly easy for men get what they were after from me. Now, Im so protective... I worry I push away what may be potential love.

I just bank on that feeling you get, when you know its right. And I try to remember....A good person who REALLY loves you.... will wait as along as it takes.

Aleister Sithis · Feb 16, 2008, 08:23 PM

To me, I'm seeing it becoming social, perhaps too social for my likings. Really...I'm not one to take full desire into sex. Now from what I've seen, people, well, as Peach_follows implied (Or what I've interpreted) people are truthfully careless, and to me only wish to take it for the sensation and pleasure. Really, I'd ratehr have people view it well, not fully sacred, but something to take precaution and care about. (To me this is why we have stupid people, they like to have accidental breeding, I'm not trying to seem offensive on this, it's just what I think).

Now, I have to say sex IS over-rated, from my experiances it's not all it was cracked up to be. And I've made a few mistakes...actually all my experianes were mistakes, just no kids, which I will admit I was lucky on that. But, all my experiances I was used, I had feelings for them, they had none for me other than lust (Which I still wonder how they can take any attraction to me, lol). Still yeah...I'm the type of guy wo settles for hand-holding and that softy stuff.

dustin scott · Feb 17, 2008, 02:19 AM

honestly, i know exactly what you mean. i didn't have to have 2 kids before i decided sex wasn't a social thing for me but it didn't(and still doesn't) mean much to me in the sense that if i'm in a relationship, i care about the person i'm in the relationship with because if i didn't i would be lieing to myself and i can't stand that so... yea... if they want it they can have it. however, i dont go around sleeping with random people which is probably why it's been nearly 3 and a half years since my last sexual encounter. that should be changeing when i get home though although i wouldn't be mad if it didn't because i'm head over heels for my girl already and i can wait as long as it takes for her to be ready. in any case this debate is looking a little one sided so yea... is there anyone who thinks sex isn't social anymore? i mean at least in society?

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Originally Posted by Peach_follows

Hmmm. I think sex has become just like shaking hand to many people. But with that said, one can still decide... even after making mistakes.... to go back to keeping sex sacred, intimate, and special. Infact, I think (speaking from my own experience) that you dont fully learn to appreciate that sacredness. Unless you've already allowed some one to dissrespect it. Once you make mistakes.... you can truely learn to stop be careless, and start respecting the most beautiful part of you.

I have certainly had my moments when I didnt care what (or who) I was doing. 2 kids later... I have decided to hold off on sex. its been over 3 years and I've only had sex once.
And even that one time proved to be a mistake (someone I loved, didn't love me back). But... holding out made me value myself so much more. It used to be fairly easy for men get what they were after from me. Now, Im so protective... I worry I push away what may be potential love.

I just bank on that feeling you get, when you know its right. And I try to remember....A good person who REALLY loves you.... will wait as along as it takes.

Miroku4444 · Feb 17, 2008, 08:07 AM

I think of it on a man versus women point of view. In the 50's and especially today sex for most guys was social(especially the younger guys). For women it has always been a sacred thing, but has become more of a social thing today. Alot of woman just don't see it that sacred anymore.

I do agree on a whole sex has become mostly a social thing. Though there are still some determined to keep it a sacred thing.

Feb 16, 2008, 10:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
dustin scott Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 7,049	sacred or social? ok, so here is my question. is sex still considered "sacred" or is it more "social" in todays society? please explain what you think about it in detail and explain why. personally, i feel sex has become more social in todays society to an extent. yea, we still ridicule people if they go out and sleep with everyone they see (well, not everybody... tends to apply more to women than men because men seem to think sleeping with more women is some sort of an accomplishment while most women tend to consider monogamy to be more admirable) but the idea of sex has become less than sacred in todays society because it's more widely accepted as social behavior. here are some examples. in the 1950's sex was still considered sacred in the idea that it wasn't considered "ok" to have sex before marriage where as in todays society, most men lose their virginity between 13 and 15 and most women lose their virginity between 17 and 20. i dont know many 13 or 15 year old boys who're married let alone many 17 year old girls. another key fact, whore houses where considered "taboo" in the 1950's (to an extent) but in today's society we have 2 or 3 strip clubs in most cities if not more. also, in the 1950's it was considered "taboo" to show skin and clevage where in todays society it's practically considered "odd" if a woman doesn't show a little skin. there are a great deal of examples showing how society has changed sex into a social activity as opposed to a sacred bond between lovers like it used to be. what do you think? is sex sacred or has society changed it into more of a social activity? __________________ It seems to me,that if you or i must choose between two courses of thought or action, we should remember our dying, and try so to live, that our death brings no pleasure on the world. - jhon steinbeck
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!The GunGrave of Trigun Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts Credits: 21,401	Re: sacred or social? Well im social im the funny guy im not the class clown where you do stupid things to make people laugh no i tell jokes im just going around trying things hanging out all do almost anything.
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dustin scott Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Bragg, NC Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Credits: 7,049	Re: sacred or social? i think you kinda missed the point in the main post. but it's good to knwo you consider yourself social. i on the other hand am quite the opposite. i'm more antisocial... a least in person. online or on the phone i'm a chatter box but if i dont know you in person... quiet as a mouse. __________________ It seems to me,that if you or i must choose between two courses of thought or action, we should remember our dying, and try so to live, that our death brings no pleasure on the world. - jhon steinbeck
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!The GunGrave of Trigun Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts Credits: 21,401	Re: sacred or social? Im the opposite of you then i use the phone computer i go out to places with friends mall movies
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!Akura13 Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wishing to go back to Japan... Posts: 638 Thanks: 9 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts Credits: 12,099	Re: sacred or social? Meh, both of you don't relize what he's asking. He's asking if sex is sacred or social, not if you are or not. I think it's starting to become more of a social thing and a "look who's cooler" thing now a days. It used to be so sacred, but no one ever thinks of that anymore. I still think it's sacred, not for show like most people do. It's sad that they've made it a popularity contest. So, oevrall, I think it has deffinatly become more social...
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!The GunGrave of Trigun Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hell Posts: 1,099 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts Credits: 21,401	Re: sacred or social? You Mean just me its the same guy and sorry i was thinking complete differnt and but yes into 2000 sex has become social but i think it should be sacred.
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lebasiara Live and feel the music Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Here and there... Posts: 923 Thanks: 10 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Credits: 12,608	Re: sacred or social? For some people sex is the most and highest expression of love and therefore is the most sacred thing you can give. That's what I think. But if we see in today's society sex is a matter of "having fun" I mean, a party is "no fun" if it does not have sex and alcohol involved. I mean, look at the movies... the 85% of the movies present sex as the way that a man tells a woman (and viceversa) I like you... Sex has become a social object (shamefully), today one can have sex-buddies... and yet not "feel" anything for them... For me it is a very sacred act that involves not only your body but also involves your soul, mind, emotions and all of you. __________________ Awesome sig Yasmine ^_^ I appreciate it thank you very much ^_^ $C:\Documents and Settings\MARA\My Documents\My Pictures\Anime room\sigs\music_sig1 mia ^_^.jpg$ I am back... be afraid... be very afraid ^_^
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Peach_follows Still pointing the sword? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Friendly Fridley Posts: 948 Thanks: 26 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts Credits: 8,825	Re: sacred or social? Hmmm. I think sex has become just like shaking hand to many people. But with that said, one can still decide... even after making mistakes.... to go back to keeping sex sacred, intimate, and special. Infact, I think (speaking from my own experience) that you dont fully learn to appreciate that sacredness. Unless you've already allowed some one to dissrespect it. Once you make mistakes.... you can truely learn to stop be careless, and start respecting the most beautiful part of you. I have certainly had my moments when I didnt care what (or who) I was doing. 2 kids later... I have decided to hold off on sex. its been over 3 years and I've only had sex once. And even that one time proved to be a mistake (someone I loved, didn't love me back). But... holding out made me value myself so much more. It used to be fairly easy for men get what they were after from me. Now, Im so protective... I worry I push away what may be potential love. I just bank on that feeling you get, when you know its right. And I try to remember....A good person who REALLY loves you.... will wait as along as it takes. __________________ I will give you a son....
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Aleister Sithis Diamond in the Rough Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sadly, Michigan Posts: 350 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Credits: 17,346	Re: sacred or social? To me, I'm seeing it becoming social, perhaps too social for my likings. Really...I'm not one to take full desire into sex. Now from what I've seen, people, well, as Peach_follows implied (Or what I've interpreted) people are truthfully careless, and to me only wish to take it for the sensation and pleasure. Really, I'd ratehr have people view it well, not fully sacred, but something to take precaution and care about. (To me this is why we have stupid people, they like to have accidental breeding, I'm not trying to seem offensive on this, it's just what I think). Now, I have to say sex IS over-rated, from my experiances it's not all it was cracked up to be. And I've made a few mistakes...actually all my experianes were mistakes, just no kids, which I will admit I was lucky on that. But, all my experiances I was used, I had feelings for them, they had none for me other than lust (Which I still wonder how they can take any attraction to me, lol). Still yeah...I'm the type of guy wo settles for hand-holding and that softy stuff. __________________ Feel free to send me Hate Mail : D
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Miroku4444 Ecchi Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 3,217 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Credits: 13,094	Re: sacred or social? I think of it on a man versus women point of view. In the 50's and especially today sex for most guys was social(especially the younger guys). For women it has always been a sacred thing, but has become more of a social thing today. Alot of woman just don't see it that sacred anymore. I do agree on a whole sex has become mostly a social thing. Though there are still some determined to keep it a sacred thing. __________________ See Ya Later Space Cowboy....
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