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    Re: "Scary" Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post
    Umm Atomic, yes they have, and those who said it are those with in the Gov. Nancy Polocy said it as well as many others who said it to those who apposed Obama, you can even look it up.

    Also, no one said that people were Un-American when they apposed Bush.

    But you are right, Obama is 100% American.
    You're talkin' to a guy who listens to republican talk radio for shits and giggles on occasion.

    I've heard plenty of people call their guests un-american for goin' against Bush. I heard a talk radio lady b*tch about how much media coverage Obama's innaguration got compared to Bush's and how the media is un-american for showing Obama so much support (god forbid we have a historical moment in this country).

    Bratling can back me up on this one. Her grandmother listens to republican talk radio all the time and takes it seriously. If I disagree with what I hear on the radio and she heard me, I'd probably be un-american in her eyes. I had a guy tell me I was un-american for watching 'Fairenheight 9/11'. Being called un-american: It happens more than ya like to think.


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    I am not talking about the average Joe shmo calling each other Un-American for which ever reason Atomic, I am talking about polititons calling those against Obama as Un-American. As for the average people saying that Bush was being Un-American thats there opinion but no one in the Republican parter under Bush called these people Un-American for going against him. There is a big difference between the people, media, and politics. If the people say it then they have the right to, I am not complaining, I just find them annoying. If its the media then they are just full of shit and going for raitings. If its polititons reguardless if they are Dem and Rep, then they are way out of line and no one be it Dem or Rep has ever called the people as being Un-American for going against them ever in the history of the US, up untill now. I am not making a big hub bub about it as there are far more pressing issues, just that I find it very insulting.
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    Re: "Scary" Government

    You're right, Scourge. When politicians are saying that people are being un-american for not liking our president, that's wrong. They never did that when Bush was president; the public did that for them. Yet, they're citizens here too and they do have the right to voice their opinion. I would've used different words though.

    Politicians can't really say anything about what we feel though. They should really take all that input they're getting from people all over and put it to good use. Like, I dunno, make things better? LOL.


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    Re: "Scary" Government

    Well from what I am getting is that the magority of people don't want the free health care bill, and if thats the case then the polititions should just drop it instead of trying to shove it down our throats would be a good starts. Doesnt matter if you are for it or against it, the Gov. is over stepping their bounds... Again... by doing this and really need to get their asses kicked and be put back in their place.
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    Re: "Scary" Government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post
    Well from what I am getting is that the magority of people don't want the free health care bill, and if thats the case then the polititions should just drop it instead of trying to shove it down our throats would be a good starts. Doesnt matter if you are for it or against it, the Gov. is over stepping their bounds... Again... by doing this and really need to get their asses kicked and be put back in their place.
    The thing is, one of the major driving forces for this is the US manufacturing industry. The soaring cost of health care is acting like a millstone around the neck of US competitiveness in the world markets. One of the major reasons for this is that doctors and hospitals have to cover the costs of emergency room treatment for people who lack health insurance for routine medical care and can't afford to make the medical payments... So this is an issue of national importance, and impacts the US balance of trade, the loss of jobs to other countries, as well as the loss tax revenue and and the growing national debt..
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    Re: "Scary" Government

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
    Grumble Grumble Grumble

    The thing is, one of the major driving forces for this is the US manufacturing industry. The soaring cost of health care is acting like a millstone around the neck of US competitiveness in the world markets. One of the major reasons for this is that doctors and hospitals have to cover the costs of emergency room treatment for people who lack health insurance for routine medical care and can't afford to make the medical payments... So this is an issue of national importance, and impacts the US balance of trade, the loss of jobs to other countries, as well as the loss tax revenue and and the growing national debt..
    Guess what, here is the kicker though, you have to look at the people who don't have health care and there reason for not having it. You don't need to pay for health care now, you can get it from your job, thats what I do, the only insurence I have other then that is for my car, my health is payed for by my job. Or you can do what other people do, forgo the busness health plan all together, you may ask why would any one want to do that? The answer is simple, they get payed much more then those who go with the health plan. So if they get hurt they can pay out of pocket. Many people do this. Yes, but many people out there don't have the option as well and or can't aford to have health care, but guess what, the free health care isant free, and there are no choices involved, you are forced into it and you pay high taxes for it as more and more people get on it. As for their whole "It will improve compitition..." Ummm How do you expect busnesses to compeat with Gov.? They can't, they will quickly wither and die untill the Gov. is the only thing left and they can raise the raits on you no matter what and there is a statment in there where you cannot sue the Gov. for liabilities. So if they say screw you, there isant a damn thing you can do about it.
    Also, speaking of screwing the people over even more, for those who can't aford the health plan provided by the Gov. They slap on an exstra 20% tax on you for insuficent health care, yes, it says that in the bill.
    Also, you have to take into account illegals who get treated as well who do not have health insurance, they don't need it, why, because they use our money to pay off there bill. And sense I know you will say "Well Obama said that Illegals will be exemped from this HC." Yes it does say that, but there is also a claws in the bill thats states no such person may ask any questions that may be viewed as discriminatory, such as color and citizen ship, so if you can't ask if some one is legal or not, how do you know they are illegal? And nother hypocritical stament is that it even states that Illegals who do recieve care will be payed for by the tax payers.
    I have read the bill, I know whats in it, you can't justify and dance your way out or make excuses.
    And I know you have not even read it Len other wise you wouldnt have even said what you said. So untill you read the bill and edjucate your self, much of your reasoning I can easily trump so don't even wast your time or mine.
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    Re: "Scary" Government

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post
    Guess what, here is the kicker though, you have to look at the people who don't have health care and there reason for not having it. You don't need to pay for health care now, you can get it from your job, thats what I do...
    But wouldn't this only be true if the mandate for required company provided health insurance, (which is part of the Obama Health Care proposal) passes??? You have to keep in mind that your personal situation and experience doesn't always apply to everyone else....
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    Re: "Scary" Government

    Quote Originally Posted by POOHEAD189 View Post
    personally, im an independent, neither republican or democrat. and the reason for that is that im an anarchist as well. thats why im going to live in the woods, preferably in africa.
    That really has nothing to do with the topic at hand. In class yesterday, I found out I was taking this course on African-American literature. My teacher asked us why people are upset with the healthcare bill. I told him because Obama is forgetting about the elderly and war veterans when it comes to his death panel of who gets healthcare and who doesn't, like it is a lottery. Obama isn't even a good president, now I don't believe he is a socialist, but the most intelligent thing he has done so far is swat that fly that so calmly rested on his new. The man is but a compromising fly swatter.

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