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Old Jul 10, 2008, 02:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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self injury glamour

I want to know where people stand on self injurious behavior, and\or the glamorization of it.

I'm getting a little sick of seeing layout designs, hearing songs, reading poems and blogs that glamorize self injury such as cutting oneself.

I've heard alot of people who are into stuff like that classify themselves as "emo"... What does that even mean? Emotional?

Im not against people who cut themselves... but I dont think its cute, or cool. I think the more its glamorized the more kids (or adults) will do it.

Self injury is a sure sign of mental illness. It means a person who does it, needs to be monitored and treated.

Im interested in hearing what others think.
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: self injury glamour

I'm against everyone who cuts themselves on purpose. If you do that, you have problems, and you need serious psychiatric help.

Cutting as been known to lead to an other serious problem: Suicide.
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 02:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: self injury glamour

It's getting old, annoying. It's now just some way to get attention or conform. I'm sorry, but I hardly call it "Emo". Emo is just some 1985 off-shoot of punk. END OF. Those who do it are either:

1. Masochist to the EXTREME
2. Seeking attention
3. Finding a way to conform
4. Actually think it helps...which I can't see how pain will help pain...(they're just idiots in my case)

I also disagree with it as a sign of needing Mental Help (I honestly am against any form of "Mental Help").
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 02:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: self injury glamour

If your parents and god gave you a life on this earth, you're special(Ok..well in my mind ok?)..So why the hell take it away? You should be happy that your still alive:]. If they choose to cut themselves..Whoopee..Apparently they think we care...Which some of us do..But sometimes it gets to the point where it gets tiring..There was a girl in my class that always said when she got home she was gonna cut herself...Ok..that's her choice. I'm not against Emo's..just simply saying I dont know how cutting yourself helps from your issues...Why cant they solve it instead of cutting? So you have a money problem and you cut yourself what good does that do? If I did it (god please forbid), I don't think it would help me at all...:] Now..sending them to a hospital..im not so sure, they are not officially "Crazy" They just cut themselves. They probably just need a counselor or a psychiatrist.
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Re: self injury glamour

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4. Actually think it helps...which I can't see how pain will help pain...(they're just idiots in my case)

I also disagree with it as a sign of needing Mental Help (I honestly am against any form of "Mental Help").

I use to cut. Only no one ever knew I did until I gashed my arm (also the only time I cut where people could see it) to where it required stitches. Yeah I'm unstable but I'm sure you would be to if you...

-Were raped by 3 different men and one being a family member.
-Watched your mother try to kill herself, as well as another time stab your sisters father.
-Were literally beat from the time you were little until you where old enough to fight back. Left broused and cut.
-Told you're worthless, fat, and stupid all your life


When your so use to pain no matter what, physical and especially mental, how would you be. You telling me you'd be fine? And your saying you wouldn't need help? No, I'm not telling you this to feel sorry for me, or to be criticize. I say this because, humans go through stuff like that and worse. I'm just trying to give you a picture of why. Not to mention to say, that they will need help.

And for your information, I don't cut anymore. I haven't for over two years now. I never did it for "attention". Head banging and bitting have not been a part of my life in a while either. I did it to make the pain from my mind go away, the pain from my heart. Ever heard of when a person gets hurt on one part of the body, they divert the pain away from it by hurting somewhere else away from it. That's what I did. That's why "cutters" think it helps. But like I said, you'll never understand especially if you don't even really want too.


EDIT: Just for the record. The little "emo" kids like that, that do it for attention, are pains. Sometimes they are doing it just because of that, they want attention. For those little annoy people, they need to grow up. Everyone would be cutting over spilt milk if they wanted attention like that. But again not all "emo" people are like that either. Well at least a few... And know, I will never call myself emo. I'm emotional, not emo.

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Re: self injury glamour

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At the same time, how many people want to see a fiery pileup wreak at a automobile race? Or waiting for the QB to get creamed at a football game?? Or remember the infamous 'Agony of Defeat' shot on the old ABC Wide World of Sports intro??? Or the crowds who want to cheer a suicide jumper to take that last leap??? Lets face it, the general public at large has a fascination with death and injury. The large number of teenage slasher movies, and other ultra-violent/horror genre produced leads credence to this claim... Self injury, and even Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy are simple extensions of this...
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Re: self injury glamour

Ok I'm just gonna point this out plain and clear. Not all emo's cut! The word emo, derived from the word emotional, means that you have mixed emotions, and sometimes sudden outbursts of emotions.
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Re: self injury glamour

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EDIT: Just for the record. The little "emo" kids like that, that do it for attention, are pains. Sometimes they are doing it just because of that, they want attention. For those little annoy people, they need to grow up. Everyone would be cutting over spilt milk if they wanted attention like that. But again not all "emo" people are like that either. Well at least a few... And know, I will never call myself emo.

Sorry you had to go through that, but the people who do that crap to get attention, are just plain stupid. Either their parents don't listen to them or they just don't give a crap. I know where your coming with this but why the hell would they cut themselves for attention? Is that supposed to make people give them more attention?
As for chaos...Well excuse me for being wrong at the term^^..I did not hang out around Emos or..that I know of..and am not interested in being one..therefor I don't really know the term besides that they are sometimes depressed and cut themselves.
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Old Jul 10, 2008, 06:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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At the same time, how many people want to see a fiery pileup wreak at a automobile race? Or waiting for the QB to get creamed at a football game?? Or remember the infamous 'Agony of Defeat' shot on the old ABC Wide World of Sports intro??? Or the crowds who want to cheer a suicide jumper to take that last leap??? Lets face it, the general public at large has a fascination with death and injury. The large number of teenage slasher movies, and other ultra-violent/horror genre produced leads credence to this claim... Self injury, and even Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy are simple extensions of this...
This goes beyond public fascination.... When disasters occur, and you watch because you're too excited to turn away. Thats different from their being an entire fad based apon something that is an illness.

I think I am more frustrated that its viewed as "cool".... like the more tragic you are the better.

Like, If somone were to cut themselves in front of me... I might watch them (fascinated)... but If they then turn around and brag about it... thats different (stupidity).

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Ok I'm just gonna point this out plain and clear. Not all emo's cut! The word emo, derived from the word emotional, means that you have mixed emotions, and sometimes sudden outbursts of emotions.
The word "emo" is NOT a word.... its a trend!
How is being emotional trendy? Its a personality trait... yet "emo" is a music genre, a clothing style, an additude.... Or so it seems.

Why is it cool to be depressed, to hurt, to struggle?

And, I understand WHY people cut... but it is psychologically unhealthy, and should not be glamorized!
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At the same time, how many people want to see a fiery pileup wreak at a automobile race? Or waiting for the QB to get creamed at a football game?? Or remember the infamous 'Agony of Defeat' shot on the old ABC Wide World of Sports intro??? Or the crowds who want to cheer a suicide jumper to take that last leap??? Lets face it, the general public at large has a fascination with death and injury. The large number of teenage slasher movies, and other ultra-violent/horror genre produced leads credence to this claim... Self injury, and even Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy are simple extensions of this...
This is true, we as human beings are obsessed with death and destruction. It's like the news. All they ever report about is who died today, what car accidents happened or what dangerous kidnapper/murderer on the loose. People find that all these things make life more interesting and fun I guess.

And for the 'emo' thing, I did a previous post a while back on what emo is. If you really want to know, read a book called 'Nothing Feels Good'.
But the 'cutting' extent of it, I feel that the kids these days that consider themselves emo are taking it way to far. I do think that if someone starts doing that, then yes, they need some help. And for the kids that do and brag about it, you can honestly tell that they are in desperate need for attention and the only way for them to get it is to show 'how bad they are hurting'. If I offend someone, I'm just speaking about what I know from my past friends that were 'so depressed' that they had to resort to this. And in the end, it was because they were in need of attention. They wanted to be noticed.
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And for the 'emo' thing, I did a previous post a while back on what emo is. If you really want to know, read a book called 'Nothing Feels Good'.
Nah, not interested in really knowing, since I wont become one..even if I don't clearly understand what it means. As peach said, it's a trend. Some kids in fact do it to "fit in" with other kids. They might think that just maybe if they do this it will grab people's attention....Wrong!

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And for the kids that do and brag about it, you can honestly tell that they are in desperate need for attention and the only way for them to get it is to show 'how bad they are hurting'.

Yeah, I know what you mean. My friend showed me her cuts once she did with a sharp lid from a soda can. I couldn't believe she has done self-mutilation. At that point I was frustrated, grabbed the lid and threw it away She got mad at me but I didn't care. She asked why and I explained to her since her parents come home at a certain time when she gets home from school, apparently she needs attention. I told her to stop doing it and if she did not quit I would not be her friend and I would tell her parents. She stopped...I don't know why but she did ^^.
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