anime_being_god

The fact the he commited adultry doesnt make him a bad leader!
He was a good president, comparing him to the last 3 or 4 behind him and Bush Jr. Clinton may have been the best of those people.

I would expect the same leadership from Hiliary.

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Scourge

In fact it does matter, its a show of character. In all the history of US presidents only 2 have ever faced Impeachment. Riched Nixson and Bill Clinton. He is on the wall of shame.
He did do a lot but what he did hurt us more in the long run, all he did was put a bandade on problems then really fixing it. Look at our debt, its HUGE and most of it was because of his polocies.
As for Bush Jr. Im not saying he is a great Presadent by any exstent of the imagination, but he has done more for the people and our econ. then Bill ever did.

Now I respect your opinion and all I ask is for you to respect mine.

_gwenibe_

Disagree. ''Womens worries'? that kinda made me laugh, only because I'd like to see where a man isn't worried about that stuff either. Just because we are women doesn't mean we are going to stop poverty, save all the children and animals and at the same time neglect their own country.

Just because a woman is in power doesn't mean she's going to focus on those things. That is a huge stereotypical statement saying that women would be. majority of women, probably don't. I personally do care, but that doesn't mean I have done something about it.

Plus, I know plenty of men that do care (probably more than me) about poverty and saving animals and look who in power?

Women are exactly the same as men when it comes to politicians. If women weren't ready to be politicians, they wouldn't have been even allowed to enter politics in the first place. Look at all the women present and past that have been in a leadership position, is it really that big a deal?

I can't help but still smell the fear of difference in the world.

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P.R. Princess

yup yup. I am the same as you nondemonational. i think thats the best to go. at least i think so.

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tsurara

sexism works both ways

see: Are girls smarter than boys?

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Scourge

I agree. Gender, Race, what ever, all of that doesnt mount to a hill of beans. We are all the same. I really wish people would try to keep pace with those who are in 2008 and more evolved and stop hanging out with Fread Flintstone.

Aleister Sithis

Define "Basic Human Law" and "wrong"

Common morals we share?

Aleister's Definitions/Interpretations:

Basic Human Law - Another illusion to make us follow some form of same coding

Wrong: Twofold: 1. Societies view on "wrong" by the common morals - which I myself don't share many of them 2. Personal view of what is wrong, another illusion we make.

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Descended From Darkness

Who cares at least he knew the worth of a dollar. With Clinton around we had a surplus of money. We had trillions of dollars saved over and look what happened when Bush Jr. got his filthy hands on it. We're going through a recession the US dollar is losing its worth and he's trying to make it like the USSR but he's too stupid to do it. People commit sins everyday this isn't new. He was impeached because of adultry he was impeached because of perjury. And incase you don't know what that is perjury is when you lie under OATH!

And I also am a non-denominational Christian but I don't believe in the bible because it was written by men who claimed to hear it from God. That and it opresses women and that is something I cannot and will not stand for nor just simply ignore. God created us for a better reason and a better purpose we are not the slaves of the common man. We are something greater and we can be just as great.

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Scourge

This is a pointless argument that will be chasing its own tail about he said she said sorta thing. So for the sake of the thread can we get back onto the topic at hand? What has happened has happened and there is nothing any one can do about it. Every one has their thoughts opinions and sorces. So I say lets move along.

gaarasandkiller1

Well i would have to agree with you on this one. There is alot of issue's to cover and i just dont think hillary can cover them because she would be focusing on other stuff that may be important but now what we need and i am not sexest and i dont mean to sound like one.

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Scourge

You are right, they are all an illusion, but then what do you think of thought and opinions and idieas and the laws we fallow from day today life, and even the money in your pocket. The value of the dallor is all baised on faith. It really has no worth, its just a piece of chemicaly treated paper. People still act on their thoughts and feelings in which they believe. We dont have to fallow the law set down by polotics. But here is the kicker. We do any ways. Everything we do is acted upon illusion and what the individual holds onto.