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    Abortion Question What would happen if I were to walk into a crowded restaurant and opened fire on the people inside, killing one? Well, more than likely I would be hauled off to jail and sentenced for murder. If murder is illegal then how come everyday women are continually having abortions? What is the difference between abortion and murder both of them involve taking the life of a living human being. How come the question of abortion is still undecided? If it is illegal to go out and kill someone then it should be illegal to receive an abortion. Abortion, many women feel that abortions do not take the life of a living human being. Wrong, from the moment of conception that baby is a living, breathing creation of God. Plus most women have abortions during the third trimester of pregnancy. In the third trimester the baby is developing lungs, arms and legs and is starting to develop fingers and toes. So during many abortions the baby is breathing, kicking, and very alive. There are many ways that abortions are performed. There is the partial-birth abortion, salt poisoning, and the suction or vacuum. However abortions are performed they are cruel and unnecessary. There are many other options besides having an abortion like adoption. There are millions of couples around the world that want so badly to have a child and then there are the millions that are destroying baby’s everyday. The abortion procedures go as followed: Partial-Birth Abortions- when the baby is partially delivered and then the doctor jam a pair of scissors into the back of the baby’s skull. Then the scissors are removed and a suction tube is placed inside of the baby’s skull. The tube is then turned on and the powerful suction sucks the baby’s brains out. Then the baby is delivered the rest of the way and tossed aside like a rag doll. The partial-birth abortion is the most widely used abortion technique. Salt Poisoning abortions take place when the mother has a doctor inject into the uterus a saline solution. The solution travels its way down into the baby’s lungs and starts to burn. The salt beings’ eating away at the baby’s lungs and basically suffocates the baby. Most babies that are aborted by the salt poisoning method will look like bright red candy apples. This is because the salt burns the layers of baby’s skin making them bright red. The salt poisoning method is the most painful for the baby because it takes up to hours for them to die and then some are born still alive. The last abortion technique is the vacuum. Vacuum abortions start out with the doctor inserting a power suction tube into the uterus where the baby is. Then the suction is turned on and by the guide of the sonogram picture the doctor starts sucking off limbs of the baby. The baby is fully alive and moving when the suction grabs a hold of the baby’s arms or legs and rips them off. All that is left in the uterus after everything is sucked out is the head. Then the doctor inserts a pair of forceps and crushes the skull of the baby so the suction tube can remove it. The baby is not the only one that suffers; many mothers that have abortions may put themselves at risk of infertility, depression, or even death. Post Abortion Syndrome may cause; if not treated depression and may even make the mother resort to suicide. Infertility may happen if the doctor slips and cuts parts of the uterus or the fallopian tubes. Death happens when the doctor cuts part of the uterus and the fallopian tubes causing internal bleeding. She was a young mother, single and carrying a second child, struggling to survive on minimum wage and welfare. He was a prominent man that had built himself a career out of performing abortions on women. During a routine abortion their fates collided. Within hours Sharon Hampltlon was dead and Bruce Steir was fighting for his freedom. At the center of the case is Steir who performed about 1,000 abortions each year, mostly at clinics in Sacramento, Chico, Santa Rosa, Redding, and Oakland. A couple of hours after Hamplton’s abortion, as the facility was closing, workers wheeled her to her mother’s car. Doris Hamplton said her daughter appeared groggy. When her son Curtis, then three, asked her if she was okay she responded in barely a whisper. “She just told him she loved him and then got very quiet.” Doris Hamplton recalled in an interview in her home. “ It was dark then and I though she was sleeping, but when I got her home she wouldn’t wake.” Sharon Hamptlon died of a perforated uterus in the back of her mother’s car on the way home. Many women jump into having an abortion because it gets rid of the problem quickly. Why should a baby be considered a problem? When we were little girls we dreamed of the day we would be a mommy and today we are having abortions to end that nightmare once a dream. Just as the doctor in the story is fighting to stay out of jail, who now is fighting for that baby’s life that he ended. Nobody, because the baby was forgot about the minute it was disposed of. On the other side of the story some women regret having abortions. “As I walked into the abortion clinic in Washington, D.C. on April 6th 1988, I was immediately given valium to calm me and probably keep me from backing out on the abortion. My $750.00 was taken from me and I could not get it back. In the waiting room there were at least 20 women. One was eight months pregnant and said she had been waiting for a long time to save enough money for the abortion. At 16 weeks I was convinced that it was just tissue. A sonogram was taken but I was not allowed to review the results. I then was given a psychological evaluation to make sure I was in good mind. Then it was time, I was strapped down to a bed and then they started. I was the most traumatic time in my life. I screamed uncontrollably and the nurses told me shut-up. If I moved my cervix would be destroyed. I could feel pools of warm blood running down my legs. The suction was so powerful it felt like my insides were being ripped out. Then the doctor said hold still we have to get all the parts. Parts? I thought it was just tissue, when I pushed the doctor out of the way I saw my baby boy lying in pieces on the table. They quickly hid the evidence and wheeled me out of the room. The waiting room was full of other women in the fetal position crying.” This experience of this woman is the experience that most women have. They are tossed around like nothing and the doctors only interested in the money treat them like animals. This woman was convinced by the doctor; just to get her money that her baby was only tissue. Who am I to criticize? If you were rapped by a person that you did not know and got pregnant should it be your choice to have an abortion? It should always be the women’s choice but it should not be the governments. Abortions should only be legal in times where the mother’s life is in danger. Who knows miracles happen everyday and what once threatened the mothers life may actually turn out to be nothing. Abortions are not God’s way of aborting a pregnancy that could be harmful to the baby or mother. Miscarriages are the way God stops a pregnancy that shouldn’t happen. Every women should have the choice to do what they want, but I can not side with something that is against everything my family believes in, or my church believes in. I feel abortion is wrong, but that is not what some other women may feel. All that needs to be said is that a women should make her own decision.

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    abortion is morally wrong. the way they kill these babies are terrible. but it helps. i am 50/50/ i disagreee with the idea cuz i hate taking lives but this is undebatable. it's the womans right if she wants it and nothing in law says she cant control her body. and look at it this way, they bann abortion the women will"accidentally"have miscarriages. but i had one and it helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
    But society has already decided that the unjust taking of human life is acceptable if the the benefits are deemed desirable enough...

    despite the countless numbers of innocent lives taken, and the number of people crippled every year, automobiles are still legal because the benefits of increased mobility and freedom are considered of greater value then the number of lives maimed or lost....

    So why shouldn't abortion be accepted by the same logical cost/benefit effects for society???
    I had to laugh when I read your post. Again, I understand where you're coming from, but your twisting things just enough to prove a point.

    What's the difference? There are consequences for people who take on actions that can be, and are lethal to others. Sure, there are also accidents and such, along with the DUIs and reckless driving. But then... Isn't it the same with countless other things? Roller coasters, large toys/tables/chairs for 2-3 year olds, guns, and so on...? There are countless things in the world that are free to us and can be potentially dangerous, even if it's merely a child's toy. Accidents happen, yes, but the government can't come in and enforce people to give up such things without any problems, they'd simply be crossing their line of power. And it's the same thing with cosmetic surgery. They're doing it to themselves.

    However, abortion is different. It's a quick fix for numerous teenagers who don't want to accept the consequences for their actions. And no, not everyone who has an abortion is a young woman/teen, but many are, and even then, I still question some of the decisions made by older women to have abortions.

    Again, I post:

    "A major thrust of pro-abortion rhetoric has been the assumption that if only young people were given adequate education in how to use contraceptives, and then adequate access to them, the problem would be solved.

    But...

    "Title X, the U.S. federal family planning program which has expended billions of dollars giving contraceptives to teenagers over the last three decades, has proven to be a colossal failure. Wherever its clinics have been established, an intense campaign has been launched to teach contraceptive use to unmarried teens. The result? The pregnancy rate has gone up. The sexually transmitted disease has gone up. The abortion rate has gone up. The age of first sexual encounter is younger. Planned Parenthood has reported that 60% of women getting abortions had used contraceptives the month they became pregnant (Chapter 35). This evidence, along with other studies, has convinced many that the siren song of "give them contraceptives and the problem will be solved," is not part of the solution, but rather part of the problem."

    Edit: By the way, why directly post an essay from some website, princesslady? Why not just quote certain pieces to use as backup in whatever you want to say? I don't think anyone will read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverskater145 View Post
    I had to laugh when I read your post. Again, I understand where you're coming from, but your twisting things just enough to prove a point.

    What's the difference? There are consequences for people who take on actions that can be, and are lethal to others. Sure, there are also accidents and such, along with the DUIs and reckless driving. But then... Isn't it the same with countless other things? Roller coasters, large toys/tables/chairs for 2-3 year olds, guns, and so on...? There are countless things in the world that are free to us and can be potentially dangerous, even if it's merely a child's toy. Accidents happen, yes, but the government can't come in and enforce people to give up such things without any problems, they'd simply be crossing their line of power. And it's the same thing with cosmetic surgery. They're doing it to themselves.

    However, abortion is different. It's a quick fix for numerous teenagers who don't want to accept the consequences for their actions. And no, not everyone who has an abortion is a young woman/teen, but many are, and even then, I still question some of the decisions made by older women to have abortions.
    So essentially your saying that accidental (but unavoidable) death is acceptable, but a decision to cause death isn't??? If the goverment doesn't have the right to force people to give up dangerous activities, then why should it have the right to be able to regulate abortion??? Even if it is a quick fix for irresonsible teenagers, does that justify the govement from banning it's practice???

    Let's bring up another legal concept... Justifiable Homicide... In most communities, it would be considered 'acceptable' to shoot, and possible kill, a intruder in your house in defence of life and property... Are you saying that woman does not have a choice to defend the integrity of her own body? You can argue that a women, by having sex, has 'invited' the fetus into her body, but let's get back to our property metaphor... If you invite a stranger into your house, and he refuses to leave at your demand, don't you have the right to have him forcibly removed, calling in the police, and possibly shooting him if he resists arrest??? If your saying that a woman does not have the right to control her own body? That she's essentially a slave to the fetus that's she carrying? Common law has already decided that lethal force may be used in defence of 'inalienable rights', so tell me, why doesn't this apply for abortion...

    Quote Originally Posted by silverskater145 View Post
    "Title X, the U.S. federal family planning program which has expended billions of dollars giving contraceptives to teenagers over the last three decades, has proven to be a colossal failure. Wherever its clinics have been established, an intense campaign has been launched to teach contraceptive use to unmarried teens. The result? The pregnancy rate has gone up. The sexually transmitted disease has gone up. The abortion rate has gone up. The age of first sexual encounter is younger. Planned Parenthood has reported that 60% of women getting abortions had used contraceptives the month they became pregnant (Chapter 35). This evidence, along with other studies, has convinced many that the siren song of "give them contraceptives and the problem will be solved," is not part of the solution, but rather part of the problem."
    Now your just quoting the results without commenting on the possible cause. In the state of California, the rate of teenage abortion, and sexually transmitted disease has actually gone down... Now is the cause of the increase of problems due to the existence of the federal program, or are there other factors (such as the increase use of sexual references in primetime broadcast TV and movies, and the lack of entertainment programs showing the consequences of promiscious sex...) and there's no control comparisions. In places without sex education, did the problem rates go higher, stay the same, or were lower? without this information it's not possible to pass judgement on the validity of this quote...
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    im so sick of this u cant comprimize a girl like that ok lets add this say the girl was raped by some guy and go tpregnamt then forced to have th ebaby how bout that then have these nightmares daily about it im nto sayin its ok im just sayin give it a rest abortion doesnt have any thing to do with u and its no ones choice but the mothers so stop sayin its killin its killin let it go it a bunch of crap it doesnt mattter...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1988 View Post
    im so sick of this u cant comprimize a girl like that ok lets add this say the girl was raped by some guy and go tpregnamt then forced to have th ebaby
    1. I think I have stated before that I think abortion should be allowed in cases of rape.

    2. Emotions are useless if that's all you use to make a decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1988 View Post
    im just sayin give it a rest abortion doesnt have any thing to do with u
    Sure it does.

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    and its no ones choice but the mothers so stop sayin its killin its killin let it go it a bunch of crap it doesnt mattter...
    If it doesn't matter, then why are you here?


    Now... on to Len.

    Quote Originally Posted by LenMiyata View Post
    Let's bring up another legal concept... Justifiable Homicide... In most communities, it would be considered 'acceptable' to shoot, and possible kill, a intruder in your house in defence of life and property... Are you saying that woman does not have a choice to defend the integrity of her own body? You can argue that a women, by having sex, has 'invited' the fetus into her body, but let's get back to our property metaphor... If you invite a stranger into your house, and he refuses to leave at your demand, don't you have the right to have him forcibly removed, calling in the police, and possibly shooting him if he resists arrest??? If your saying that a woman does not have the right to control her own body? That she's essentially a slave to the fetus that's she carrying? Common law has already decided that lethal force may be used in defence of 'inalienable rights', so tell me, why doesn't this apply for abortion...
    I laughed again. Len Len Len, again, I see where you're coming from... but a burglar entering a person's home is different than a woman having a baby. Off topic, I don't see why you would invite someone to your home only to want to get rid of him.

    In the end, Len, I don't know what else to say. You come back at me with these weird situations, and I feel as if we're going in circles, and won't stop. I'm worn out because of this debate between me and you, although it's not a bad thing.

    I'll say this though, just because I thought of it, and maybe it's not exactly the right thing to say but I'll say it anyway... Outlawing abortion is hardly implying that a woman has a right to control her own body. When it comes down to it, most of the time, it's just a way for women to cheat around their consequences. There are several ways to avoid pregnancy (although I acknowldge that they sometimes fail), as there is also abstinence for younger/unwed women.

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    I think people should be allowed to do as they please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEMON SPAWN View Post
    I think people should be allowed to do as they please.
    Even killing? Raping? Slander? Malcontent towards others? Stealing? Etc...


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    i was making a freaking point. and like i know how. point blank. law cant control women and abortions no matter how hard they try cuz they gonna do it any way

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