Alondra

homosexuality will send you to hell!! would you consider that taking a bullet for someone, if you do, id go!! its a way of life i mean come on he created it why wouldnt he go to hell if its so wrong?

itachigirl

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As much as i would like to believe that, its not true. The bible states several times that contradicts this.

For instance. It doesnt matter if someone on the other side of the world is good or bad. If they don't believe or accept Jesus Christ, they will be sent to hell? Justice? Not imo.

Ahem.

Right. The bible isnt a happy fairy tale, where the good guys win and the bad guys lose, but in the end everyone learns there lesson and gets along.

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itachigirl

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No it isn't. It has been theorized and publicized as fact by media with an agenda but it you actually go read the original research and statements by those who did the research all they have is a theory that are as of yet unproven.

It's the same as Carbon dating. You can say that it is accurate to billions of years but recent research on it has narrowed it to be only accurate within app 6 thousand years and even that has been disputed. Yet it is reported otherwise. Put simply don't believe everything you read concerning science. Go read the originals instead and be prepared for things to change, they almost always do.

No, that is because Christians aren't bound by the Judaic Law. Again you would know that if you took the time to learn about what the bible is.

So here is a quick lesson.

Previous to the children of Israel leaving Egypt there was already a long history of the religion of God the Father. It can be traced back to Abraham in Ur and his rejection of the pagan religion at the time and embracing the previous religion from before. Through him this religion was respread throughout the entire known world. There were people who followed this religion found everywhere. Abraham payed tithes to Melchizedec. Moses himself was inducted into the priesthood by his father in law who was from Midian. What made the Israelites different was that they had the promise that Christ would be born from them and that through them all the Nations of the world would be blessed.

The other difference is that when they left Egypt they placed themselves directly under the rule of God and his Prophet. It was a theocracy. The Judaic Law was created as a law of sacrifice. The outward actions symbolizing both prophecies of what was to come and to remind them of the commandments of God. Remember that, it is important. Now this law was a GOVERNMENT as much as a reflection of the religion. As such it contains legal ramifications for breaking the laws. Laws based on the religion as well as order. Laws also based on the fact that the Israels biggest issue at that time was Idolatry and Fornication. The punishment for either were severe.

Now forward to Christs coming. The law of sacrifice, the Judaic Law, is/was a symbol of his coming and as such was fulfilled at his death and resurrection. During his life however he replaced the standards of "outward actions" with "inward intent". We may base our laws on the 10 commandments as an example of a law, a government rule, set up by God but Christians are held to the much higher standard of "intent". No longer was it enough not to murder you are not to even wish to, to become angry. No longer is it enough not to fornicate or covet someone else's wife you are not to even look at a woman in lust. The intent of the heart is what we are now judged on not just "lip service".

It is not that Christianity ignores the laws but that we have different and more difficult laws we are supposed to follow.

No, a true loving God realizes that no one is perfect and will make mistakes and provides a way we can be forgiven for them. Which is exactly what he did.

BTW, why do you think they will burn for eternity? "Eternal" is another name for God along with "Alpha and Omega", "I Am", and "Everlasting". "Eternal Punishment" is the name for his punishment. We don't know how long that punishment will actually be.


Yes, but they keep finding copies from early Christian times to compare them with. Every time they do they are amazed at how accurate they are. Interesting yes? Think of it this way, if Gods hand is involved the only way for a serious mistranslation is by deliberate decision on the part of the "translator" hence the warning found multiple times throughout the books of the Bible that those who do so are under condemnation. (Yes, books. The word Bible means "Books", plural.)

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Miroku4444

And the reason you don't believe this is because of your religious beliefs. You think all ppl are born pure, and God wouldn't have made them that way. So they are born not gay.

Although if you ask most gay ppl, they say they always felt that way since as long as they could remember. Like you always know your attracted to guys. So if your born this way it has to come form some genetic trait.

Yeah carbon dating isn't the most accurate method, but it doesn't make it not true. All you have to do is look at fossils and how there sitting in the rock strata. Scientist can tell the age of the earth by looking at the layers of the rock. The farther down the strata the older it gets in time. If you look at numerous fossils placements in the rock strata, they're way older than 6000 by quantum leaps.

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BrightShadow_96

Why would you go to hell for loving someone? That doesn't make any sense at all. Several people have these caricatures of what the bible says.. nobody really could say for sure exactly what the bible means. I think it's a truly more of a puzzle than a book. I believe that if gay people went to hell, there would truly be an unjust god above us. I think god would be a lot more understanding than that. Especially sense he makes people that way.
The fear is always there.
But it is easily dismissed, and overlooked.
I don't believe hell is in my future.
Hell is in the eye of the beholder-
So why wouldn't the path to hell also be in the same eyes?
Sometimes it feels like your being sucked into hell
But you can't be sucked into hell
If you feel the angels above you
And feel your heart.

-My strange interpretation of the world

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Not at all Miroku. My religious beliefs would not be comprised in any way if it turned out to be true. I have taken the time to go read the original research however and have found that either the researchers have themselves denied the news reporting of their findings or that they are only preliminary studies indicating a possibility that they wish to research. It is the news reporting it as fact not the scientists. Pardon me for believing the scientists instead.



Older yes but how old, no. That is the point. Newer findings have discovered that the rate of decay after it's half-life of 5568 years is probably not a constant and that there are elemental factors that can change the rate before that. So unless you have some type of archaeological evidence to back up the year you cannot be certain that it is accurate. Even then our records after a few millennium become guess work within hundreds of years. You really have to deal in eras.

As for the fossils, I don't see how they affect anything. lol But then I also know that the word in the scriptures used for "creation" (as pertaining to the earth) means "to organize". I am sure you can see how that might change my view of such things when combined with catastrophic event theory.

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So you're saying that you, a teenager on an anime forum, has all the answers regarding homosexuality, and carbon dating. But the scientists, who graduated from collage with a number of degrees, whos done several generations of research, and has finally concluded that the earth is approximately 4.5 billion years, are all wrong. They must not know what they are talking about, right? They are just lying to us? They know that its actually 6000 years old, but don't want to admit it? What are you trying to say?

Don't you think they looked into carbon dating? Dont you think they know what other factors can affect its accuracy? Do you think the scientists are just idiots? What are you trying to say? That your bible is proof that the earth is 6000 years, and that carbon dating, which is hard evidence, isnt?

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brandi12

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they shoud rott in hell that is so weird i hate when you go somewhere and there are 2 gay men talking in their wispy voice

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aceman67

Well, given the last post, let it be known that Brandi12 ruined the discussion for the rest of you.

This is a prime example of how NOT to voice your opinion in an acceptable and appropriate manner.

Nice job Brandi, Bravo.

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