Thelonious

Should Homosexuals have the same rights as other human beings? No.

For many reasons, I cannot justify that answer. Of course they should be allowed to adopt. If your afraid that they are gonna make their children gay, than your essentially thinking that being gay is wrong, which is another problem entirely. If your worried about the child being insecure, what child isn't insecure. The idea that gay parents would provide a bad example is the assumption that the standard male/female parents is awesome and always works. Everyone knows that no parents are perfect, and when all is said and done its more important that your parents loved and supported you as oppose to whether or not your manly dad taught you how to throw a football.

RayMe

hmm.. strong points... @.@

I don't wanna take risks and let the homo's get adoption... this is not an experiment.. it's human beings we are talking about.. it's better we do it with the way we use to use since the humans first family were build...that way we wont need 2 worry much...

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!The White Wolf

Why is there a need to worry if we start letting homosexual couples adopt kids?

So should we start worrying if Caucasian couples start adopting African American children? Or vise versa?

No. It has already been in progress. And humanity is still the same as it was way back when, am I wrong? We haven't been wiped off the face of the Earth.

Arrianna

If they are married to someone of the opposite sex, sure.

It's not about discrimination no matter what people tell you. It's about what is best for the children. Adoption isn't a right, it's a privilege. Saying they are being discriminated against because they don't fit guidelines based on the children's NEEDS is like saying that someone living in poverty is being discriminated against because they don't meet the income standards.


@The White Wolf: yes there are people freaking out because whites have been allowed to adopt black orphans. That, unlike the other, is discrimination.

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!The White Wolf

How is it not discrimation? Most are not thinking about the needs of the children. They're thinking.. "Ew. Homosexuals. They shouldn't be allowed to adopt kids, that's just wrong." And yes, children have needs. But there are a whole lot of them being raised without a mother, or a father. That's just how it's been in the past few generations. Single parents all over the place. Just because the kid might grow up with two moms, or two dads.. at least there is that sense of ful-fillment and fullness.

Shu

whats risks? really, name some risks of letting a homosexual adopt.

Chubz

Hm....that's a bit of an odd answer (about being married to opposite sex). Is that just so that there's an actual 'mother' or 'father' figure for the child? That's a bit of a Catch-22...namely because of 'married to opposite sex', but also because is it would suggest that being gay isn't the problem, only the parental figure debate. That would be saying that it's okay to be a gay parent, as long as the appearance of a straight family is there.....which like I said would make being gay not the problem, but the parental figure debate.

Which would then bring up arguments concerning 'single parent' adoption, as it also challenges the parental figure debate (only having one mom, or one dad)....

From Childwelfare.gov
So if you're saying it's only about presenting the appearance of a straight family, then it would rule out single parent adoption, because there would be only one parent, which would not be a 'mom/dad' family, nor would it create the appearance of such a family.

I don't think ANYONE could possibly argue that adoption isn't a right...it's most definately a privilege...that's absolutely 100% correct. But I think if a couple is going to absolutely love, care for, and protect the child, and teach the child properly, I don't see having gay parent adoption as being a bad thing. If they treat the child like any good parent would, then I don't think sexuality should be a problem factor.

I would certainly trust the gay people I know with a kid, and wouldn't worry about them.

However, from the same website as the other quote:

So even though single parent adoption is available, it still has a stigma to it because of not providing a 'mother'-'father' situation. Until this debate fully unfolds in society, where it's decided if single parent adoption is perfectly okay (where all adoption agencies have no problems with it), then I think that the gay adoption debate is overstepping that one, which isn't fair for single parents who want to adopt.

Also, one of the barriers of single parent adoption is income, because a single person will make far less than a married working couple, and be working....but a gay couple could have the around the same income as a straight couple....though it leads right back into the mother-father debate.


So I'll say that at some point, I think gay parents who will treat their child like a loving family would, should be allowed to adopt. But I think the issue of single parent adoption HAS TO be approached and completely figured out by child health experts, etc (either fully accepted, or not accepted). Until that one is figured out, I don't think the gay adoption debate can, or should, go ahead. Because that would be unfair for single parent adoption. If the gay adoption debate is allowed before single parent adoption is fully worked out, then it would be saying that the only thing holding single parents back would be income, and not the mother-father debate.

Arrianna's right, that it's not discrimination, because the same rules apply to everyone, which is why it can be hard to get approval for single parent adoption, due to the mother-father family unit debate. The needs of the child HAVE to come before the individual person, so until single parent adoption is fully cleared up by medical experts and adoption agencies, I don't think the gay adoption debate should go forward. Like I said, it would be unfair to single parents if gay adoption suddenly jumps ahead. Depending on how that turns out could then determine whether gay adoption as allowed or not.

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Angel_in_hell

if the kid wants to be gay it is there choice not the parents choice. most ppl that are gay are born that way its been proven but i will admit that some are gay because they want drugs and will do anything for it! and if that was the case then i would say no to them adopting the kids but if they had a happy house hold then why not, they will love them no matter what and the kids will gorw up with love and a home and food in there stomach thats all that matters right? i mean most ppl think that chicks kissing other chicks is hot hen what is the big deal about them being gay?

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!The White Wolf

No one is "born" gay. Where did you hear such information? Facts and quotes would be nice, please.

Also, what does people becoming gay for drgus and whatnot have to do with homosexuals adopting kids in general? How does that affect anything in anyway? There are straight people who sell drugs and have children.. what is the difference if it were with homosexuals?

Chubz

Well they're still not sure whether people are born gay, or whether it's an actual choice......The two sides are still debating over that, each side using different scientific data to make their argument.

So at the moment it comes down to personal belief...you could either believe one side, with one set of scientific data, or the other side, with a different set of scientific data....there's no 100% clear and accepted answer at the moment.

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!The White Wolf

It just makes absolute no sense to me. A newborn baby has no idea of anything, how is it just going to be "born gay". It's not possible, in my book. Being gay is a choice you make later on in life.. there never really is a timelinef or that type of thing. Although for transexuals.. it is said that they are really members of the opposite sex because their brain did not continue to develop due to a certain hormone. So if born a boy (they really think like a girl, because they are in fact a girl.. their body just didn't comprehend that when being made). But when it comes to just being gay.. I don't believe that it is something that babies are just "born" with. I believe it is a choice.

But we're getting off topic here.

My point was that babies are not just "born" gay.. but it isn't the fault of the homosexual parents either. If anything, the child will turn out to be a straight as a line. IF they become homosexual, keyword being become, it was a choice that they made themselves. So being raised by homosexual parents does have anything to do with the future of the child's sexual orientation. It might influence it, yes.. but it wouldn't be the reason.