elie26

._. Pls don't argue.
Honestly I think you 2 are both right @.@
*sits on the fence* You begin to learn you're sexuality when you grow up, ok rephrase- THE PROCESS OF GROWING UP. Not when you're 50 and then notice it =.=...
So techincally I think both of you might have got your points.

Rave_Grip

*shrug* I was just telling you that there are stuff inside you that determine whther you are gay or not.

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elie26

Yes well I think that is true. The X thingy and all >.> I haven't learned that in detailed, but I have heard of it.

princesslady

it's called kleftners or something, cant spell. but you are female and no that doesn not determine your sexuality. i learned it in biology.

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deodaclan18

Thank you god for that. This was about to go into a.....well, you know.

Anyways, princess, don't call him crazy or any scientist crazy. Clearly they have done the research on this topic, so it's not like they pulled that theory out of their you know whats. Gotta be open minded is all I'm saying.

As for adoption, the real topic, I don't mind them adopting as long as they don't try and force their lifestyle on the child. If homosexuality is a choice, which I'm not saying it is, they should have the right to choose whatever sex they want to "be" with.

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you are allowed to argue amongst yourselfs, but keep it civil and dont let you emotions get the best of yous.,
honestly, keep this civil of so help me god i will infraction the hell outa yous! (lol kidding but still, have a clean discussion)

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Chubz

K, just an excerpt of a CBC article about homosexuality, and the conflict of whether someone is born gay, or whether it is choice:

So like I said in my other post, it's still not 100% clear whether homosexuality is caused by genes, or choice. As of right now, there is no definitive answer...

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Shodokan

Princesslady like other posters have told you being homosexual is something that's imprinted in your genes even before you even leave the womb. I've read various essays scientist have done about theri research and I think it's more close to 70 percent certain it's genetic.
I think what they're doing now is finding out how the womb affects a human's sexuallity. Maybe when they get that done we can be 80 or 90 percent certain.

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Arrianna

Exactly.

There are places that allow for single parent adoption but it is restricted based not just on income but on the child fitting certain parameters. Essentially what has been found is that when the children are older (and sadly usually unadoptable) they often benefit from the attention that single parents will give. The one on one relationship. This only applies to older children who need that kind of focused attention however.

It is not about rights but about the NEEDS of the children... and that, is how it should be.

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frr_Vegeta

I did some reading on this exact subject back in November for one of my seminars. In actuality several studies have already been done on this subject. One particularly large study conducted in the United Kingdom returned results of the overall self-esteem and the homosexuality turn-over rate amongst children who were either raised in a homosexual household or raised in a heterosexual household.

Firstly, interms of the percentage of children raised by homosexuals versus heterosexuals, there was no significant difference between either group or within groups when you looked at gay versus lesbian households. The only difference interms of homosexuality found was those raised in homosexual households were more open about their homosexuality than homosexuals raised in heterosexual households.

Also, with regards to self esteem and happiness and the like two findings surfaced. The children did tend to get a slight raise in the 'being made fun of' factor in early gradeschool but this diminished by the time they were in the 5th or 6th grade. When the children were looked at after adolescence (20's to early 30's) it was found that those raised in homosexual households actually reacted more positivly to peer criticism then those raised in heterosexual households. Differences in self-esteem once they reached this age were nonexistant in heterosexuals. However, homosexuals who were raised in homosexual households were found to have higher self esteem than homosexuals who were raised in heterosexual households. It was speculated to be due to the parents better understanding of the childs homosexuality and perhaps because of that better able to support the child as they adjusted.

Before reading that study (as well as 3 or 4 others conducted in the US and parts of Europe) I was very much against homosexuals raising children based on several beliefs. Those studies shattered my beliefs and I now see absolutly no reason to prevent a homosexual couple from adopting children (or getting children through other means such as IV fertilization with or without a 'donor' mother) so long as they fit the criteria that all other groups must fit (income stability for instance).


Actually now that I'm thinking more of that study.... if I remember correctly actually....when a heterosexual family was being interviewed when the 'child' reached his 20's to see how he was doing (again, self esteem and ect.) when asked about his sexuality his parents replied that he was heterosexual, he then turned to them and admitted that he was in fact homosexual, choosing that particular time to 'come out of the closet' must have been rather difficult for him I'm sure.

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Angel_in_hell

so you dbout science? can you be open minded? and tell me say you had a son/daughter and they came up to you one day and told you that they were gay how would you feel would you still treat them like u did when you dident know that they were gay or would you treat them diffrent? most ppl do treat them diffrent and thats why they need a kid is so that they have someone who will under stand and be there when they are sad! princesslady you need to learn to be open minded and and learn to trust science a little more! cuz there is something in the babys brain that is triggerd later on in life, and thats when they turn gay.

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